Hey guys! Quick intro: Currently 41 but have been working out on/off since I was in high school. In the last ~10 years I got really lazy. Had a kid etc... Slowly getting back into it. Currently running Reta and down ~30lbs in the last ~2.5 months. Been doing a PPL ~6 days a week program for ~2 months and a bunch of cardio. Recently had my blood test and looks like I'm pretty low re: Test. So waiting on a endocrinologists appointment. However, slowly planning on doing my first cycle once I'm down another ~10-15lbs. Picked up most of the "supplements" I need from the approved vendors list for my region which was super helpful.
I know the general consensus is usually just running a Test cycle before adding other compounds but I was thinking about adding Anavar as it sounds pretty mild and can help a bit with fat loss as well while also running Reta. Throwing the following idea's/cycles around:
Cycle #1 - 12 weeks Test E + Anavar
* Week 1-6 - 300mg/week of Test E
* Week 7-8 - 300mg/week of Test E & 20mg/day of Anavar
* Week 9 - 300mg/week of Test E & 30mg/day of Anavar
* Week 11-12 - 300mg/day of Test E & 40mg/day of Anavar
Bloodwork timeline:
* Pre-Cycle (Week 0/Before starting)
* Week 6 (Mind-cycle & pre-anavar)
* Week 13 (End of Cycle)
* Week 17-18 (~5-6 weeks into cruise assuming I'll be going on TRT)
Cycle #2 - 8 weeks Test E + Anavar
Maybe a shorter cycle would be more ideal for a beginner rather than going 12 weeks? But I read a few posts/info scattered around that 8 weeks is a waste and might as well just do the 12 weeks if you're already running it.
* Week 1-3 - 300mg/week of Test E
* Week 4 - 300mg/week of Test E & 20mg/day of Anavar
* Week 5 - 300mg/week of Test E & 30mg/day of Anavar
* Week 6-8 - 300mg/day of Test E & 40mg/day of Anavar
Bloodwork timeline:
* Pre-Cycle (Week 0/Before starting)
* Week 3 (Pre-anavar)
* Week 9 (End of Cycle)
* Week 13-14 (~5-6 weeks into cruise assuming I'll be going on TRT)
I've been also toying with the idea of maybe doing a Test E/Deca cycle first to try gaining some more mass/muscle and then maybe use Anavar on the second cycle to help cut a bit while probably still on Reta but on a smaller dose once I've lost the weight I still want to lose. But I think losing bodyfat is probably more of a priority so assuming leave Deca for a second cycle.
Have a few other questions that I could use some help/guidance on:
* Should I be taking TUDCA or NAC once I start Anavar so support the liver? If so, which one is better? I'll do my research as well but would love hearing some feedback from more experienced members. Seems like some people claim you probably don't need it as Anavar is pretty mild but others suggestion taking support.
* Picked up Arimidex and Nolvadex as well just in case but should I be taking Arimidex right away? Or wait for the first blood test after starting the cycle to see where my estrogen levels and then start if they're high/alarming? Will only take Nolvadex if I notice any gyno side effects.
Please let me know if I'm missing anything or if I should be adding something like HCG as well.
BTW, really love how this community doesn't just shit on everyone. But apologies for another "First Cycle" threads. I'm sure some of you are sick of them
Either way, really appreciate the feedback/help in advance.
I know the general consensus is usually just running a Test cycle before adding other compounds but I was thinking about adding Anavar as it sounds pretty mild and can help a bit with fat loss as well while also running Reta. Throwing the following idea's/cycles around:
Cycle #1 - 12 weeks Test E + Anavar
* Week 1-6 - 300mg/week of Test E
* Week 7-8 - 300mg/week of Test E & 20mg/day of Anavar
* Week 9 - 300mg/week of Test E & 30mg/day of Anavar
* Week 11-12 - 300mg/day of Test E & 40mg/day of Anavar
Bloodwork timeline:
* Pre-Cycle (Week 0/Before starting)
* Week 6 (Mind-cycle & pre-anavar)
* Week 13 (End of Cycle)
* Week 17-18 (~5-6 weeks into cruise assuming I'll be going on TRT)
Cycle #2 - 8 weeks Test E + Anavar
Maybe a shorter cycle would be more ideal for a beginner rather than going 12 weeks? But I read a few posts/info scattered around that 8 weeks is a waste and might as well just do the 12 weeks if you're already running it.
* Week 1-3 - 300mg/week of Test E
* Week 4 - 300mg/week of Test E & 20mg/day of Anavar
* Week 5 - 300mg/week of Test E & 30mg/day of Anavar
* Week 6-8 - 300mg/day of Test E & 40mg/day of Anavar
Bloodwork timeline:
* Pre-Cycle (Week 0/Before starting)
* Week 3 (Pre-anavar)
* Week 9 (End of Cycle)
* Week 13-14 (~5-6 weeks into cruise assuming I'll be going on TRT)
I've been also toying with the idea of maybe doing a Test E/Deca cycle first to try gaining some more mass/muscle and then maybe use Anavar on the second cycle to help cut a bit while probably still on Reta but on a smaller dose once I've lost the weight I still want to lose. But I think losing bodyfat is probably more of a priority so assuming leave Deca for a second cycle.
Have a few other questions that I could use some help/guidance on:
* Should I be taking TUDCA or NAC once I start Anavar so support the liver? If so, which one is better? I'll do my research as well but would love hearing some feedback from more experienced members. Seems like some people claim you probably don't need it as Anavar is pretty mild but others suggestion taking support.
* Picked up Arimidex and Nolvadex as well just in case but should I be taking Arimidex right away? Or wait for the first blood test after starting the cycle to see where my estrogen levels and then start if they're high/alarming? Will only take Nolvadex if I notice any gyno side effects.
Please let me know if I'm missing anything or if I should be adding something like HCG as well.
BTW, really love how this community doesn't just shit on everyone. But apologies for another "First Cycle" threads. I'm sure some of you are sick of them
Either way, really appreciate the feedback/help in advance.
