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Gynecomastia on a Testosterone Dbol cycle HELP me

You need to run an AI from day 1. Why risk it.

What's your bodyfat?
I haven’t really had any sides from previous cycles and I don’t want to prematurely crush my E if I don’t have to. My BF is probably around 14% if I had to guess. You can still barley see all my abs.
 
Everything you do with your body is trial and error.. some people are more estrogen prone than others and vice versa but running THAT MUCH total per week of two compounds that are highly estrogenic is something that you need to be fully aware of before you start and have it planned etc.. you will crush your estrogen by misusing an AI, not by simply using it at all.. the people that crush their estrogen generally either completely misuse them or misunderstand them entirely
 
Definitely drop the dbol and get that test number down. You don't have to pin test C EOD either. Just do 200mg twice per week so 400mg test per week.
 
Definitely drop the dbol and get that test number down. You don't have to pin test C EOD either. Just do 200mg twice per week so 400mg test per week.
I dropped the Dbol the day I started the OP. Gyno symptoms/progression has since subsided. Still running 600mgs of test a week. I’ve run 650 in the past with no sides. I def shouldn’t have added the Dbol in hindsight. I’ll save it for another time and def will run low test with it. Lesson learned for sure. I’ve heard the horror stories of Dbol and test, but I’ve also heard of ppl doing it with success. I should have started an AI immediately with the Dbol due to the high aromatization. I’ve just been weary of AI’s cause I don’t want to preemptively crush my E2.
 
So I don’t have a log started and I’m probably going to get shit for that… I’ll start one soon. Long story short I’m running Test C 175mg EOD and DBol 30mg a day. I’m starting to get gyno and added arimidex .5mg a day 2 days ago. Over the last 2 days the gyno seems to still be progressing. I’m heavily debating on dropping the Dbol since the test is so high. I started 14 days ago with both. I’m enjoying the benefits of the Dbol… but I don’t want my titties to get any bigger. I know there’s pretty good success with raloxifine in reducing the size of gyno. Do I have to wait for they cycle to be over before I run ralox? I wouldn’t run ralox and adex together, but can I switch over to ralox to shrink the gyno while still running a cycle?
I have Deca on hand as well and wanted to start running that after I finished the 4 weeks on Dbol, however now my biggest concern is not letting this gyno get any worse. It’s right at the point where it’s starting to be visually noticeable. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
drop the dbal and get some nolva bro
 
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