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New bloods as of 7/4/26. Absolutely amazing recovery. Natural LH & FSH remarkably overworking at the moment. This was even before clomid/nolva combo. Most likely the cliff dive from hcg/hmg clearing from the system whilst the balls are still hyperactive allowed the pituitary to kickstart and takeover and prevent receding testosterone production. Will continue clomid/nolva but at much smaller dose and much shorter duration.

Mate this is incredible! That's textbook best case scenario for PCT. Massive W 💪
 
I took this blood early in the morning on 7/4. This was a completely clean window - no hcg/hmg was interfering since I stopped it 4 days ago.

I started my first clomid / nolva combo LATER that day (7/4 at lunch time) without realising that actually my HPTA had already started anyway. Sad to say it really was a waste of buying clomid/nolva to prepare for the non-existing worse.

Overall this was an example of following the PCT protocol textbook and it worked as expected.
 
I took this blood early in the morning on 7/4. This was a completely clean window - no hcg/hmg was interfering since I stopped it 4 days ago.

I started my first clomid / nolva combo LATER that day (7/4 at lunch time) without realising that actually my HPTA had already started anyway. Sad to say it really was a waste of buying clomid/nolva to prepare for the non-existing worse.

Overall this was an example of following the PCT protocol textbook and it worked as expected.

Good point @GHgut4life but the bigger question for me isn't the clomid/nolva timing, its whether the LH/FSH on those bloods was actually endogenous or still residual from the HMG clearing out.

HMG literally contains active FSH and LH (or hCG with LH activity). The half life of FSH from HMG is around 30-40 hours so after 4 days you're looking at 2-3 half lives, most of it should be cleared but maybe not all of it.

Even if the LH/FSH is genuinely coming from the pituitary, one blood test showing recovery doesn't mean the axis is fully restored long term. The pituitary might have kicked in as a rebound response from the sudden drop when HCG/HMG was pulled, but that doesn't guarantee it stays online. Thats the whole reason we run SERMs, to keep the hypothalamus/pituitary firing through the negative feedback loop while everything stabilises.

Either way @Trixtr751 the numbers are looking promising brother, just keep an eye on it and maybe get another set of bloods in a few weeks once the clomid/nolva is done to confirm the axis is holding on its own.

Just follow the PCT protocol and the magic will happen brother 🙏
 
Good point @GHgut4life but the bigger question for me isn't the clomid/nolva timing, its whether the LH/FSH on those bloods was actually endogenous or still residual from the HMG clearing out.

HMG literally contains active FSH and LH (or hCG with LH activity). The half life of FSH from HMG is around 30-40 hours so after 4 days you're looking at 2-3 half lives, most of it should be cleared but maybe not all of it.

Even if the LH/FSH is genuinely coming from the pituitary, one blood test showing recovery doesn't mean the axis is fully restored long term. The pituitary might have kicked in as a rebound response from the sudden drop when HCG/HMG was pulled, but that doesn't guarantee it stays online. Thats the whole reason we run SERMs, to keep the hypothalamus/pituitary firing through the negative feedback loop while everything stabilises.

Either way @Trixtr751 the numbers are looking promising brother, just keep an eye on it and maybe get another set of bloods in a few weeks once the clomid/nolva is done to confirm the axis is holding on its own.

Just follow the PCT protocol and the magic will happen brother 🙏
we need to get you as a VIP here brother you got knowledge
@bss going to talk to admins to upgrade your log and you
 
Sleep Log 13/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root
-5HTP 99mg
-DSIP 0.5mg (sponsored by @Prymal )

Had decent sleep earlier but woke up and couldn't go back to sleep. Brain activity seems to be firing hard at 3 in the morning. Overall OK score.

Sleep Score : 7 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal) 0.5/0.5/0.5/2.5
DSIP 1mg (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax (@Prymal) 1mg
Testagen 1mg (New)

Tonight I will increase DSIP to 1mg, and no other supplements to see what the effects are as a stand alone sleep inducer.

Trying out a new peptide today and one that's rather difficult to source. Testagen is a tetrapeptide (KEDG) testicular bioregulator that was originally isolated from testicle tissue extract. It's studied for its ability to promote testosterone biosynthesis by stimulating the Leydig cell activity and improve the testicle cell metabolism. Research is rather limited in Russia though.

Given the nature of its claims and non existing side effects, its seemingly a good addition to my current PCT protocol. I will test and report its findings.

The Prymal Team: @Prymal @bss @Yeahnah
 
Sleep Log 13/4/26

Current Sleep protocol:
-Magnesium Glycinate 655mg
-Ashwagandha 300mg
-Glycine 3g
-L-Theanine 400mg
-Valerian Root
-5HTP 99mg
-DSIP 0.5mg (sponsored by @Prymal )

Had decent sleep earlier but woke up and couldn't go back to sleep. Brain activity seems to be firing hard at 3 in the morning. Overall OK score.

Sleep Score : 7 / 10

Peptide Plan today
SS-31 2mg
NAD+
Motsc
Reta (@Prymal)
TA-1 2.5mg
KLOW (@Prymal) 0.5/0.5/0.5/2.5
DSIP 1mg (@Prymal )
Selank 1mg
Semax (@Prymal) 1mg
Testagen 1mg (New)

Tonight I will increase DSIP to 1mg, and no other supplements to see what the effects are as a stand alone sleep inducer.

Trying out a new peptide today and one that's rather difficult to source. Testagen is a tetrapeptide (KEDG) testicular bioregulator that was originally isolated from testicle tissue extract. It's studied for its ability to promote testosterone biosynthesis by stimulating the Leydig cell activity and improve the testicle cell metabolism. Research is rather limited in Russia though.

Given the nature of its claims and non existing side effects, its seemingly a good addition to my current PCT protocol. I will test and report its findings.

The Prymal Team: @Prymal @bss @Yeahnah
I hate when that happens, you wake up and can't go back to sleep ffs it's the worst!
 

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