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Old 10-10-2008, 05:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pull up's and dip's no weight 6 sets of 15 Mon-Fri Morning/ Also do abs and cardio 3 days a week mixed in there morning time
I lift weights at night
Monday- Chest/Tri
Flat Bench Barbell-
5 sets of 5 - Hit max for 1 rep 2 sets - drop weight do a set of 10,12,15
Incline Barbell-
5 sets of 5 same as above
Incline Dumbell-
12,10,8,6
Flat Bench Dumbell-
12,10,8,6
Decline Bench barbell
12,10,8,6
Triceps- Skull crushers-
12,10,8,6,4,1
Behind the neck dumbell-
10,10,8,8
Cable pull down
10,10,8,8,6,4,15
Reverse grip curl or rope pull down
12,10,8,6,15
Isoletion dumbell
15,12,10,8
LET ME KNOW IF YOU THINK THAT IS OVERTRAINING. I think it might be cause my chest and tri's are alot bigger then the rest of my body but when I;m juicin I love hittin it
Tuesday Rest
Wednesday- Legs
Squats-
Warmup,15,12,10,8,6,4,1 pryamid back up 10,12,15
Leg Press-
Same as above for squats
Calves
Thursday- Back
Pull Downs-
Warm up, 10,10,8,8,6,4,1 pryamid back up 6,8,10,12
Rows-
12,10,8,6
Chain Saws-
12,10,8,6
Upper back 2 seperate work outs dumbell and machince
12,10,8,6
Dead lifts and back extensions
15,10,8,4,1 back up 8,10,15
Friday day off
Saturday shoulders
Military press behind the neck
15,12,10,8,6,4,1 back up 10,12,15
Aronld dumbells
Start heavy go to light 4,6,8,10,12
Front laterial raises
12,10,8,
Side raises
12,10,8
Traps Barbel behind the body and dumbells
15,12,10,8,6,4,1 back up 10,12,15
Rear deltoids
12,10,8,6
Sunday biceps
Straight Bar curl
5 sets of 5
E-Z curl
12,10,8,6,4,1
Dumbells
10,10,8,8,6
Cable machines
12,10,8


Bench 315
Squat 405
Deadlift 375
24 205lbs 5'11

I got this work out from when I was prison for 3 years. it seems to work pretty well I switch it up every other month to shock my body by doing negatives sometimes even going in and just doing flat bench the whole time and that's it. Let me know if you guys think that's over training at all. If I should even hit pull ups and dips in the mornings?
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Massive overtraining in my opinion.

If you give each set 100% of everything you've got, then there is absolutely no way you could ever do that many sets.

But if it's working for you then why change it?

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Old 10-10-2008, 07:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Massive overtraining in my opinion.

If you give each set 100% of everything you've got, then there is absolutely no way you could ever do that many sets.

But if it's working for you then why change it?

Don't fix what ain't broke!
Yeah it works. I love to lift but I don't want to kill myself you know. I don't wanna be old and cripple. My body can take a beating now. I take alot time between sets. I just like to hit til i'm dead. When I'm done with chest I make sure I can't even do 1 push up! What happens when I get lazy isn't my body gonna be used to such a hard work out that i'll be plataue all the time?
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Massive overtraining for chest and triceps, the rest is most likely in the overtraining zone as well, just not as madly as the first workout.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ya cut back on the chest training.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thats a lot of work but if your getting bigger and stronger then your not over training ... maybe over doing it.

All I do is pick 4-5 exercises and do a couple heavy sets of 4-8 reps. So a typical back workout might look like:

Machine Pullover
Barbell Rows
One Arm DB Rows
Deadlifts

A typical chest workout might look like:

Barbell Bench Press
Smith Incline Press
DB Incline Fly

Not including warm ups I might do 2 heavy sets of 6-8 reps. Sets are taken to failure and a partner usually assists me with forced reps.
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Massive overtraining in my opinion.

If you give each set 100% of everything you've got, then there is absolutely no way you could ever do that many sets.

But if it's working for you then why change it?

Don't fix what ain't broke!
I agree completly. If you start going backwards, you should really lower the volume
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Wednesday- Legs
Squats-
Warmup,15,12,10,8,6,4,1 pryamid back up 10,12,15
Leg Press-
Same as above for squats
Calves


Bench 315
Squat 405
Deadlift 375
24 205lbs 5'11

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Ah, the ever neglected legs..... All upper body gets isolated attention but not the lower...?
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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it seems to work pretty well
didnt u just answer ur own question rite there??

honestly, how are WE supposed to know if YOU are overtraining based on a program you have provided... we've never met you, dont know what ur diet is like, ur past training experience, how you feel, how you look, your genetic potential etc etc.

what information are we supposed to judge your question on?
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didnt u just answer ur own question rite there??

honestly, how are WE supposed to know if YOU are overtraining based on a program you have provided... we've never met you, dont know what ur diet is like, ur past training experience, how you feel, how you look, your genetic potential etc etc.

what information are we supposed to judge your question on?
Yeah I answered my question but I don't know if I should continue doing working out like that, you get what I mean? My diet consist of this. I pretty much got it from steroids.com I have been following it for about 6 months now. My past training I have been lifting since 17 I'm 24 now. I have done 2 previous cycles 1 about a year and half ago of deca 100mg's a week, test prop. 500mg a week and dbol 35 mgs a week. My second cycle was 1000 mgs sus250 a week and dbol 40 mgs a week. I plan on doing test e250 750mgs a week for 12 weeks and 100 mgs A-bombs for 6 weeks. I'm 24 5'11 205 lbs bf% 20. I have been working hard on my beer gut but I need to do more cardio or something. I hope that helps

First meal
8 oz. oatmeal
0.6 1 skim milk,
0.2 1 orange juice
3 oz. grapes

Second meal
10 oz, whole wheat bread
4 oz. cheese,
0.51 kefir milk
1 banana

Third meal,
8 oz. brown rice
10 oz. turkey
5 oz. vegetables

Fourth meal,
5 whole eggs
16 Oz. baked potatoes
Mixed salad

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7 Oz. whole wheat bread
1 oz. peanut buffer
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if you are getting gains you arent over training..you can under rest and under eat not over training is a matter of opinion.. good follow up post.. doesnt look (at a quick glance) like you are under eating.. you are on cycle which also aids recovery time so i would say if you are sleeping enough and seeing results dont break something that is working
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basically what sadie said... diet and training is ALL outcome based... if u are achieving ur weight loss or weight gain goals what more could u ask for??

generally ppl ask for help when they are not happy with their progress but u said ur program was working pretty well and since thats the case then u likely arent overtraining

now theres prolly room for increasing the efficacy of ur diet and training program and overall ur program looks to be very high volume compared to most... the diet is ok but not generally what id recommend however if its working for u, stick with it
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Yeah I answered my question but I don't know if I should continue doing working out like that, you get what I mean?
I think you should try focusing in a few quality hard sets rather than quantity.
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Pick 1 or 2 compund and 1-2 isolation excercises per bodypart and be done with it.It would probably take me close to a month to do all those excercises you listed, every bodpart looks overtrained to me.
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