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Old 08-18-2008, 07:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm currently starting the 5th week of my Prop/Tren A cycle.Everything is going pretty good.Starting weight was 222ish....now hitting 245,and have lost some fat along the way.Calories are 4500-4800 per day.Strength gains are beginning to come fast and furious and pumps are INSANE!

My question is....I'd like to add in Arimidex at 1mg eod to reduce bloat....not getting a lot but some.Will the adex slow or hinder my gains?Sems to be different opinions on this
I'll be running the prop at 150mg for another 6-8 weeks and the tren a at 100 mg eod for another 4-6 weeks.Finishing the final 4 week of the cycle with winny at 50 mg/day.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Those are great gains for 5 weeks?? I never gain anything like that on twice that dose. If you're not having any sides from the tren and prop way take any anti e's? Is your blood pressure through the roof? Gyno?
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Blood pressure is great,no signs of gyno whatsoever.
First 3 weeks I ran prop @ 100mg eod and tren @ 75mg eod.Decided to bump it up after 21 days.
Having night sweats,feel a slight bit run down?? heard this is common with tren,a bit of shortness of breath also hard this is common with tren.
Other than that ,sex drive is crazy and all seems good.

I have ordered the adex and should have it tomorrow.
I would like to keep the bloat to a minimum,and it doesnt seem to be all that bad .....maybe not bother??

Appreciate any advice
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I guess it matters how you look. I don't mind a little bloat and wouldn't use anything if it wasn't that bad. But I wouldn't use anything if it was bad.
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ps....just checked my logs....tomorrow is day 29....NICE gains I feel
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which cycle is this for you? and if you don't mind the bloat no reason for rimi, i know some people that bloat in the face which makes them look retarded so they take ai's
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yea, i get moonface so i use at least .5mg of adex even on only 3-500mg of t per week
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This is my 4th cycle...although my first one since my early twenties..36 now
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I'm currently starting the 5th week of my Prop/Tren A cycle.Everything is going pretty good.Starting weight was 222ish....now hitting 245,and have lost some fat along the way.Calories are 4500-4800 per day.Strength gains are beginning to come fast and furious and pumps are INSANE!

My question is....I'd like to add in Arimidex at 1mg eod to reduce bloat....not getting a lot but some.Will the adex slow or hinder my gains?Sems to be different opinions on this
I'll be running the prop at 150mg for another 6-8 weeks and the tren a at 100 mg eod for another 4-6 weeks.Finishing the final 4 week of the cycle with winny at 50 mg/day.

If you're not getting gyno and your BP is fine, then there is no real reason for it unless the bloat is really getting to you. A bit of bloat is anabolic, estrogen is protecting your blood lipids, storing more glycogen in muscles, increasing sensitivity to IGF-1, upregulating the androgen receptor etc etc so taking arimidex will likely slow your gains a little. On the flip side, you'll get less nut shrinkage if you do run the rimi.
If it's only a little bloat, you could probably deal with it by restricting your sodium intake...
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So it's basically 6 of one...half a dozen of the other kind of thing

Really there isn't alot of bloating....no moon face or anything....more that I "feel" bloated.
Christ that sounds like a woman while pms'in huh lol
Might be a bit of not being used to taking in 5000 cal / day hence the "feel" ?
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If you're not getting gyno and your BP is fine, then there is no real reason for it unless the bloat is really getting to you. A bit of bloat is anabolic, estrogen is protecting your blood lipids, storing more glycogen in muscles, increasing sensitivity to IGF-1, upregulating the androgen receptor etc etc so taking arimidex will likely slow your gains a little. On the flip side, you'll get less nut shrinkage if you do run the rimi.
If it's only a little bloat, you could probably deal with it by restricting your sodium intake...
spot on info here. save the adex for another cycle(unless you need it).

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well you might want to reconsider... arimi plays hell with your HDLs...so do some things to help that level out if you do use arimi... and also you might get away with .25 or .5 mgs eod instead... and that could also have less of an impact on your HDL at the lower dosage... many people are good with .25 or .5 eod and on higher levels of hormones than your stated dosages... just my thoughts.... i would prefer the bloat a little over lower hdls... congrats on the big time gains...
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Arimidex will do its job and keep the water off, but not without some disadvantages...as para said, some estrogen is good....I personally think arimidex is the best AI you can use...

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So it's basically 6 of one...half a dozen of the other kind of thing

Really there isn't alot of bloating....no moon face or anything....more that I "feel" bloated.
Christ that sounds like a woman while pms'in huh lol
Might be a bit of not being used to taking in 5000 cal / day hence the "feel" ?
Yep, swings and roundabouts... A bit of estrogen has more advantages than disadvantages if you don't get gyno or massive bloat, just keep it under control. If you're feeling like a woman with PMS then keep arimidex on hand! When you start watching Desperate Housewives then it's time to use 0.25mg EOD!

5000 cals a day can definately make you feel bloated if you're not used to it, esp if you are using a lot of protein powders and/or dairy products.
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I'm currently starting the 5th week of my Prop/Tren A cycle.Everything is going pretty good.Starting weight was 222ish....now hitting 245,and have lost some fat along the way.Calories are 4500-4800 per day.Strength gains are beginning to come fast and furious and pumps are INSANE!

My question is....I'd like to add in Arimidex at 1mg eod to reduce bloat....not getting a lot but some.Will the adex slow or hinder my gains?Sems to be different opinions on this
I'll be running the prop at 150mg for another 6-8 weeks and the tren a at 100 mg eod for another 4-6 weeks.Finishing the final 4 week of the cycle with winny at 50 mg/day.
you may only need 0.25-0.50mg day
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Yep, swings and roundabouts... A bit of estrogen has more advantages than disadvantages if you don't get gyno or massive bloat, just keep it under control. If you're feeling like a woman with PMS then keep arimidex on hand! When you start watching Desperate Housewives then it's time to use 0.25mg EOD!

5000 cals a day can definately make you feel bloated if you're not used to it, esp if you are using a lot of protein powders and/or dairy products.
After reading this....I tried mixing my weight gainer with water instead of milk for a few days.....I feel less bloated.I think it may just be the dairy!!

I'll save the adex for a test/deca/drol cycle!!
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So If you administer .5 every other or every third day some estrogen will still be present if you are doing say 400 mg test /week?
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After reading this....I tried mixing my weight gainer with water instead of milk for a few days.....I feel less bloated.I think it may just be the dairy!!

I'll save the adex for a test/deca/drol cycle!!
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