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    Default Help-Severe Pain at Tip of Elbow

    Hurt the rear tip of right elbow working tris, now I cant' bench or press overhead.
    Any advice-solutions?
    Right now I'm using Motrin and ice but it's not helpin that much.

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    Sounds like a classic case of tendinitis.Ice and Motrin are a good start, rest is just as important.Are you doing a lot of skulls etc. for tris?Those are notorious elbow grinders.In the future I would 1. invest in a elbow sleeve and 2.do high rep rope push downs before even thinking about pressing movements.If all else fails you can get ultrasound done to get rid of the scar tissue/inflamation.
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    Yes, I agree. Tendonitis. Go to the store/pharmacy and grab some Naproxen otc. It will help MUCH more than Motrin. Take it 1-2 tabs twice a day. You're also going to have to rest it for it to get better. My advice would be to grab the naproxen and take a week off while taking that regularly. That should clear it up.......

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    Might help also; but like I said get to the root of the poroblem otherwise it will just get progessivly worse:

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    Other than what the others have said, Take an knee wrap and wrap an ice pack in the knee wrap around your eblow after every training session. That should help with inflammation a bit. If you wish to continue to train, get some Rehband elbow neophrene elbow supports to help warm up the joint and tendons while you are training. This will take some time to correct itself.

    From a PED standpoint, GH and IGF1 are about the only real supps that will help with tendonitis. And even that is slow and gradual.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dduck44 View Post
    Hurt the rear tip of right elbow working tris, now I cant' bench or press overhead.
    Any advice-solutions?
    Right now I'm using Motrin and ice but it's not helpin that much.
    I would keep icing,,,use some ALEVE or IBUPROFEN,,,you may need some time away from the
    gym,,,at least avoid direct movements that hurt that area,,,you want it to heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIN View Post
    I would keep icing,,,use some ALEVE or IBUPROFEN,,,you may need some time away from the
    gym,,,at least avoid direct movements that hurt that area,,,you want it to heal.
    Yeah, most people will need time away. I tried to work through it and suffered from tendonitis for MONTHS until I finally took a week off.......
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    Thanks for the advice folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Valmer View Post
    Other than what the others have said, Take an knee wrap and wrap an ice pack in the knee wrap around your eblow after every training session. That should help with inflammation a bit. If you wish to continue to train, get some Rehband elbow neophrene elbow supports to help warm up the joint and tendons while you are training. This will take some time to correct itself.

    From a PED standpoint, GH and IGF1 are about the only real supps that will help with tendonitis. And even that is slow and gradual.

    Good luck.

    All the best,
    Jimmy
    In my experience you have to wrap the elbow incredibly tightly to get any relief from the wraps/supports. The wraps work well for tendonitis further down the arm, but the elbow is a whole other matter.........for me I had to wrap the elbow so tightly that it impeded any exercise I tried to do involving my arms........
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    Funny thing when I had it it never bothered me on pressing movements more on extension type for the tris.........
    Last edited by RIPT; 09-03-2012 at 07:55 AM.
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    I had the same damn thing.
    As everyone else has said, ice a few times per day, ibuprofen, avoid exercises that agrevate it and take a bit of time off.

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    Something that has helped my wrist and elbows lately is a Gyro ball. I cant beleieve the difference.

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    never to take these type of injuries very lightly as it may cause more further damage. i would recommend you to visit a good physio for this pain and avoid going to gym for some days till the pain and your injury dosent gets well
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPT View Post
    Funny thing when I had it it never bothered me on pressing movements more on extension type for the tris.........
    I see this thread got resurrected. I was reading it and thinking the whole time about his comment on not being able to bench press... And then saw your post. I don't get it myself, but seen it in guys I train with a ton, and it rarely means they can't do presses. Most just have to avoid the causal movements and some others, but most can press. Again , just my exp. but when an injury starts making other movements difficult, you may want to take it a little more carefully.

    I know tris are a major part of pressing, only saying most guys I've trained with, with minor tendinitis can still press, and when it starts affecting pressing and other moves... it can turn out to be more then just inflammation. But I'm sure for some guys it could be different, and let's hope it's just inflamed.
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    I have this problem from time to time, sometimes also with an extremely sharp pain in my forearms at the bottom of flat benching. I don't train tris heavy, and can't do any overhead tri work as it aggravates it. Pre exhausting my chest with flyes before benching has helped a lot. Now I need to find a solution to training tris, as they are severely lagging.

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    Try cable extensions leaning away from the stack.^^
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    Cheers ript, will try it out.

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    Do you stretch your bi's and you tri's? I had this same problem, and after getting my corrective exercise certification (going for my kinesiology degree next), I discovered that a lack of flexibility can be the cause of the problem. Another thing that could be causing the pain (which ties in with the lack of flexibility) are muscle knots in the tri's and / or bi's, which causes tight muscles. It is hard for me to diagnose over the internet, but this is one avenue that you may want to look at. Try to find a good physiotherapist, especially one who is trained in sports therapy, and they will be able to help you. I like a lot of the advice given above, but you need to find the root of the problem, or it will not go away, and will more than likely get worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gronkboy View Post
    Do you stretch your bi's and you tri's? I had this same problem, and after getting my corrective exercise certification (going for my kinesiology degree next), I discovered that a lack of flexibility can be the cause of the problem. Another thing that could be causing the pain (which ties in with the lack of flexibility) are muscle knots in the tri's and / or bi's, which causes tight muscles. It is hard for me to diagnose over the internet, but this is one avenue that you may want to look at. Try to find a good physiotherapist, especially one who is trained in sports therapy, and they will be able to help you. I like a lot of the advice given above, but you need to find the root of the problem, or it will not go away, and will more than likely get worse.
    Thats sounds like some real solid advice.

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    Agree with Zach about the physio/time off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quik6 View Post
    Cheers ript, will try it out.
    Rope/underhand p-downs may also be usefull as well as kickbacks.........
    Last edited by RIPT; 10-22-2012 at 09:12 AM.
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    I thought I should “weigh in” on this issue as I am 8 months into a very similar sounding injury. I initially injured my elbow at Brazilian jue jitsue practice while posting on my right arm with a large amount of my and my partners weight. It felt like a strain so I continued to work through it. A week later I went the do some flat bench presses and during the 3rd set felt some mild pain and numbness/tingling. It was a day or so after that that I realized I had made this injury serious.

    --Take the time off and don’t risk a serious injury. The elbow is a complex joint and takes a long time to rehab from zero!

    I have been to three different hand/elbow (orthopedic) specialists who have done everything from misdiagnose the injury to just telling me to rest and come back in a month for several months. I tried to rehab my elbow three separate times with the same result, I would get my strength back to about 45% and then it would just go back to zero for no apparent reason. Finally, after going to me General Practitioner again and advises me that it sounds like my elbow was actually out of line. He sent me to a “Manual physical therapist” who through testing my range and pain noticed that my radial bone was 2cm out of place and this was why I couldn’t rehab. It. He has since manually pushed that bone back into line and now rehab is finally working.

    -If you are serious about lifting, get it checked out by your doctor and if possible a variety of pyisio-professionals. Don’t risk a super long rehab!


    Things I have learned on this journey that I feel would be helpful to you….


    `The elbow is a joint that should almost never be immobilized as it will become very stiff very quickly!

    `Try to do all of your elbow involved lifting (both in the gym and for every day activity) from the prone position… that is; keep your elbow down by your side, bent 90%, with your hands in a thumbs up position. This is the safest position to lift, push, or pull things with a hurt elbow.

    `When you are resting your elbow, put it in a sling for an hour or two. The weird thing about a bum elbow is that it is always carrying the weight of your hand and forearm. It needs a break from that now and then

    `Stay away from skull crushers!

    `REST! A week out of the gym is nothing to 8 months ;/

    I know this was a bit scattered but I hope it helped. Check back in with this thread and keep us updated of how everything goes. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gronkboy View Post
    Do you stretch your bi's and you tri's? I had this same problem, and after getting my corrective exercise certification (going for my kinesiology degree next), I discovered that a lack of flexibility can be the cause of the problem. Another thing that could be causing the pain (which ties in with the lack of flexibility) are muscle knots in the tri's and / or bi's, which causes tight muscles. It is hard for me to diagnose over the internet, but this is one avenue that you may want to look at. Try to find a good physiotherapist, especially one who is trained in sports therapy, and they will be able to help you. I like a lot of the advice given above, but you need to find the root of the problem, or it will not go away, and will more than likely get worse.
    This is a smart, educated person. Tendons that are too tight rub the bones and this causes bone spurs to form, very painful. Try stretching, deep tissue massage. Perhaps more work on tris and less on Bis as this seems like it could also be the result of a muscle imbalance. If the tendon gets too tight it may need to be cut like with carpal tunnel. However, you end up with alot of weaknesss and the possibility of soft tissue rips.
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    Does it still hurt??If so you seriouisly need to ssek some medical attention!Start with scans and go from there.
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    its better to immediately contact any good physio for this problem as this may further damage your muscles and will end up your bright athletic career

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    I was studying it and considering whole time about his opinion on not being able to the flat regular media... And then saw your publish. I don't get it myself, but seen it in people I practice with a ton, and it hardly ever indicates they can't do clicks. Most just have to prevent the causal motions and some others.....

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