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Big Bodybuilder on Dr Phil
Interesting video:
As it goes on you can tell he feels pretty guilty about what he is saying. Doesn't seem like a bad guy, seems like he no longer wants to be with his wife though
The wife is a cougar as well.
ditch the wife. stick with the gym!
hes a fuckwitt
ditch the wife you say? man i hope that was a joke
shes raised 3 of his kids and he gives a fuck about nothing but himself
is that what it costs to look good so to speak? fuck that id rather be normal and have a normal enjoyable life where people and my family have respect for me than loathe me
3 kids later is too late for "i think i want to live more"
Originally Posted by disldo
Unfortunately, that's what it usually takes to be at the top.
Bodybuilding is a very selfish endeavor.
Last edited by catalyst; 07-09-2012 at 12:48 AM.
They say the path to success is laiden with those you stepped on to make it.I hope they are happy in the end!
Last edited by catalyst; 07-09-2012 at 12:49 AM.
LOL, fair point mate.
Lets face it, you would have to be a total knob to go on Dr Phil ans pill your guts about you personal family matters in the first place.
"I shall pass through life but once. Any kindness I can show or any good thing I can do to any fellow human being, let me do it now, for I shall not pass this way again."
The guy has 3 kids, a wife and job. Being "at the top" should be the last thing on his mind. He seems like a nice enough guy from what i saw, but anyone in his position willing to risk his health, family, job etc just to stand on stage and flex his muscles needs his head checked.
People who arn't heavily involved in/commited to what it is we do and how/why we do it will probably never get it........
The two best things for your health are humping and pumping.- Arnold Schwarzenegger. Allways grow, grow allways.Life's too short to be small.
Part 3 of the video is the best part when dr. phil tells him his opinion. Marriage is something very sacred and important. you don't get married just for the f##k of it, and you don't have 3 kids just so u can say u have 3kids. A REAL MAN takes care of his family first while pursuing bodybuilding at the same time. It's hard but not impossible to do. If he wants to turn pro, he should have thought of this b4 he got married and knocked up the wife 3 times. Very immature for 31, eventhough he looks late 30's with botox injections included LOL. Talk about self obsessed to the max. very sad
you are right mate i dont disagree with your comment mark
but i think at this point having already commited enough to have kids you kinda need to work out a balance
others have done so successfully, he obviously has some sort of issues possibly what was mentioned by his father but i personally have seen it happen to others who were nowhere near or ever to achieve pro level
one example was a dude who you have met, used to be really fat, lost all his weight and competed ripped but skinny and alomst won had he not passed out on stage
when he was just a normal dude (albeit over weight) he was really humble and everybody liked him
once he got a taste of attention and the addictive need to stay in condition (ofcourse its natural to achieve such a goal that once seemed impossible and crave keeping it) he became a totally different person
he is still a decent bloke but his life became about him and how many chicks he could show the world he has and who he is fucking while he left his home with kids and wife who again tried endlessly to stay there for him,
you couldnt walk into his shop without him showing pics on his fone of women hes playing with, every woman that walked by the shop tuning to see whats in the store he would whistle and act like they wanted him he was fucked up and on a trip
he never really let up either, it was all about him and nobody else
its definately a mixture of the new appeal and AAS with the over powered libido controlling us who let it
many of you dudes either make the choice not to commit which is fair enough ofcourse or you are well past the point of it controlling your life and can moderate everything
its a shame to see and this dude in the video has surely got some sort of complex all he has to do is recognise it and work on it (so i guess i take back the part above where i called him a fuckwitt
i personally believe if there is a negative to androgens its most definatley all of the above
watched too many fellas go from being great to outta control myself included
totally agree, however i also beleive that there is the other end of the spectrum here also. We can be so obsessed with bodybuilding WE are the ones who become delusional. At some point some people need to grow up, realise there is more to life etc. This guy is a perfect example of this.
I was on the animal pak forums and spotted something similar to this issue. A guy asked Evan Centopani about what he thought when he was at the fitness expos around the world and had all the "hot" models and women throwing themselves at him. His response was...
Hey man, there are always gonna be hot women and shit like that but what the fuck does that matter you know? My girl doesn't even go to the gym. Despite the fact that it may make my lifestyle seem impossible for her to understand and it may cause fights and I might get pissed and she might get pissed and we fight about it, in the end I think that she adds a lot of balance to my life. I can be fucking relentless when it comes to training and eating and working, working, working and I think that she brings and outside view into my world and keeps me from getting too wrapped up in a wrold that is not reality. I do what I need to do and you can't fuck with that. But you have guys dating female bodybuilders or fitness girls etc and they may have great relationships but I value the fact that my girl is not involed in the industry. If I was with another competitor, I think I picture myself losing my ability to relate to people outside of the sport. I think that fi the sport has any fuckin chance of bein somewhat mainstream or at least as popular as it was back in the late 80s then there have to be guys who can talk to people and not act like a fuckin meathead and the guy has to know more than eat, sleep, train. Maybe you could win a contest with that mentality but you'll suck at life. I'm a bodybuilder, yes. But I'm a human being first and foremost and if I HAD to stop bodybuilding tommorow it wouldn't be the end of my world. I can do other shit and be happy and successful. I'm not impressed with people who are really good at ONE thing. Big fuckin deal you can win a bodybuilding contest. There's go to be more to you than that. If that's all you have to offer, not only do you suck as a person, you make a real shitty ambassador for the sport of bodybuilding. Person first. Bodybuilder, second.
In the end life is about balance.
The two best things for your health are humping and pumping.- Arnold Schwarzenegger. Allways grow, grow allways.Life's too short to be small.
good post SAMCRO
I think he would regret it later if he did leave her,,but then again if the man doesnt love the women maybe its
time to set her free and they both move on.
Yep, good post. Certainly sums up how some BB's become....self absorbed and self centered.
R.I.P Luke Wood. You will never be forgotten Brother.
I can't believe this post has generated so much interest. It's Dr Phil people. DR PHIL!
Is everyone running PCT right now?
What Goble said.
Evan Centpani has always impressed me as a class act and reading that just confirmed it for me.
Being succesful at BBing does not need to mean you live your life as a totally self absorbed, one dimensional moron. Those who take this path may have big muscles but they end up very small people.
"I shall pass through life but once. Any kindness I can show or any good thing I can do to any fellow human being, let me do it now, for I shall not pass this way again."
True. But then you should disclose that at the onset of the relationship and know that being self obsessed means not having what other people have. Its a fair trade off when you're single. You can't just impose that shit on someone though.
The bloke actually said: "I spend more time at the gym than I do with my kids."
Assuming they're still little enough to want their dad around and that he also works...that's kind of shitty.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
Top of what? What takes precedent of being a parent ONCE you are one?
Unless he can work out how to walk two paths at the same time (like anyone with a career and is parent has to do) the guy is in need of some time management skills
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
I'm not saying what he should or should not do, I couldn't give a flying fuck. But I know what it takes to be at the level that he desires. And for that you need to be, HAVE to be!! One eyed, so focused it's almost like Rain-Man, and I'm not exaggerating at all with that. Seriously, how many of the top guys can you count that have familes? I mean real familes, not a few odd children running around. It's even hard to find ones that are married. I held hope for Troy Alves and Jay but even they are over, and neither of them even have kids. And the kids it's what makes the next level.
8 time Mr Olympia Lee Haney.
Married his childhood sweetheart Shirley, had 3 kids, won 8 Sandows, retired, lived happily ever after, is still healthy and happy at 50ish yo or thereabouts.
I will readily admit he is not the norm in this crazy pursuit of ours.
"I shall pass through life but once. Any kindness I can show or any good thing I can do to any fellow human being, let me do it now, for I shall not pass this way again."
Ronnie also has kids...
All over the place! lol.
Of course you can do it. I guess I'm saying, this guy is using it as an excuse NOT to make good on commitments he has already made.
And as you guys point out...you can do both.
He's choosing not to. His problem is not BBing...its something else.
"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." -Voltaire
Whether it be bodybuilding, or something else..
He's still find a way to be a shit bloke..
Some are self absorbed, and some consumed by many other things..
Good parents, husbands are few and far between..
As Xanth said, his problem is not BBing.. it's merely the sympton..
Ronnie, Haney, Branch, dugdale...the list would go on. I totally disagree you have to be that self absorbed and obsessed to be a successful bodybuilder, completely ridiculous. I would argue that its just people who are already fairly self absorbed, narcissistic and with some serious insecurity problems that are drawn to bodybuilding in the first place. Not the other way around. I know a lot of people who are very successful in other pursuits such as business and careers that demand a hell of a lot more dedication than bodybuilding and still have a very good / balanced family life. Hell i know someone who works as an investment banker which is a very demanding career and competes at a high level in triathlons also, still has time for his son. The above is a cop out in my opinion.
I have no idea what it would take to get to this level... But one could postulate that having a stable base and lots of support from a wife and family could actually assist someone in ascending to heights well above what they are capable of on their own.
Could not agree more with you JFT87. This is definitely a cop out. The dude is having botox injections at age 30-31! Wtf is he going to do when he gets to 40+ ?? You can tell he is heavily affected by the steroids (horny dog) and wants to root around eventhough he has a loving wife and three kids. If you spend more time in the gym like this guy said, then you do with your kids who are your flesh and blood, then the issues are far deeper. This guy fucked up the minute he got married IMO.
The guy seems to be totally fucked mentally. Even at the of the third episode he agrees he has to be a better man and support his wife and children better than rambles and says his a BB and his going to go pro.
His wife should find someone that will treat herself and the kids with some respect.
If he does continue with BB and turning pro all I can say is good luck buddy your going to get smoked !!!
i think his mum fucked up, should have copped his dads load all over her face or in the arse instead of conceiving this douche bag
i dont have kids but to treat them the way he has is unbelieveable.
Shake n Bake!
I think he should give the game away.
From what I saw of him and as he says hes 5 weeks out...he wouldnt place in the worst show I've seen
and for that hes losing his 3 kids and a wife.
Delusional
You beat me to it.8 time Mr Olympia Lee Haney.
Married his childhood sweetheart Shirley, had 3 kids, won 8 Sandows, retired, lived happily ever after, is still healthy and happy at 50ish yo or thereabouts.
I will readily admit he is not the norm in this crazy pursuit of ours.
Possibly the greatest Mr Olympia ever, if he can do it at the elite level successfully for so long then there are no excuses for anyone else.
Great post Aust.
8 time Mr Olympia Lee Haney.
Married his childhood sweetheart Shirley, had 3 kids, won 8 Sandows, retired, lived happily ever after, is still healthy and happy at 50ish yo or thereabouts.
I will readily admit he is not the norm in this crazy pursuit of ours.
I never at any point said that it can't be done. And JFT, seriously, did you just mention Ronnie?? LOL!! Talk about the total opposite. And Branch has only just begun his family life, looks good at the moment, so hopefully it continues.
Just for the record, I don't give a flying fuck about this dude, I haven't even watched the video, nor will I. My comments are that to pursue bodybuilding at an EXTREME level, it's almost impossible to also have a normal life outside of this for any length of time.
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