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    Default Good fat burner?

    My wife is trying to loose weight whats a good cycle or pill for her?Thanks

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    Eat less and move more... it is that simple. Unless you want to get into something like dnp or high dose aas cycles the effects of otc diet pills is minuscule.
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    DNP was the only thing I ever tried that I noticed a decent fat burning effect from. T3 and Clen didnt seem to do much for me at all.

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    What is DNP?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol

    I wouldnt try it again, its too strong. Its an industrial dye and turns everything yellow including your bodily fluids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dover View Post
    What is DNP?
    Bro... don't even think about it man. It cooks you from the inside out. The margin for error between great results and death is just way too small. If ya use that on your wife and are just a lill off you might as well stick an apple in her mouth and put her on a spit.
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    good god.....there IS no pill.....LOL

    get er on the treadmill, lifting and starving herself like the rest of those of us who even care what we look like!

    Sorry, that's the way it is!!!
    Be nice, I'm elderly.

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    I heard meth will make you skinny. Give her some of that!
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    She should try self discipline and will power. They work everytime!

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    Well, if she wants a pill to make it all go away, then she is willing to take things by mouth.

    Each meal should consist of a protein (lean), fiber, and a complex carb.

    Of course, cardio also helps, A LOT - really depends on how bad SHE wants it.

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    I assume you want OTC stuff?

    You can't go wrong with an ECAY combo.

    E - Ephederine. You can still get Ephederine Sulphate OTC in the form of Primatine Tablets (right next to Primatine Mist, the OTC ashma inhaler at the drug store)

    C - Caffine. Use a caffine tabet to control the dose more easily than just drinking coffee.

    A - Asprin. Potentiates the E,C, and Y. Also lowers bp.

    Y - Yohimbine HCL. I dunno where you can buy the HCL OTC (you can buy it online), but you can find Yohimbe powder (capsules) and look at the standardized HCL content on the label. It's somewhat effective with men, but VERY effective in women.


    Womans starting doses-
    E - 12.5mg (1/2 of a 25mg tablet)
    C - 100mg (1/2 of a 200mg tablet)
    A - 81mg (baby-asprine)
    Y - 5mg (look at the lable to find how much yohimbine hcl is contained in the yohimbe bark... or just get some yohimbine hcl from supplementdirect.com)

    -split it into 2 doses.
    One with breakfast, and one either 8hrs later or 45mins pretraining.
    (i.e. 7am & 3pm)

    Do cardio on an empty stomach. Either first thing in the morning before breakfast, or after weighttraining.

    Pretty simple.
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    If you want some Non-OTC/grey-area stuff:

    You can add 40mcg of clen in the AM with 50mcg of t3.

    You can also add 5-10mg nolvadex in the am as well, however if she's busty she may drop a cup-size. Arimidex is useless in non-menopausal women.

    You can also add a small dose of DHEA. 25mg twice a day.



    OH!.... and I forgot one very important thing. ---- DRINK IT WITH 100% GRAPEFRUIT JUICE!! I prefer to squeeze my own juice (4 grapefruit trees in the yard!), but OceanSpray makes a 100% grapefruit juice that's not bad. I don't care for the taste, but it's the effect on the half-lives/potency of the supplements I'm after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insulin_Shock View Post
    I assume you want OTC stuff?

    You can't go wrong with an ECAY combo.

    E - Ephederine. You can still get Ephederine Sulphate OTC in the form of Primatine Tablets (right next to Primatine Mist, the OTC ashma inhaler at the drug store)

    C - Caffine. Use a caffine tabet to control the dose more easily than just drinking coffee.

    A - Asprin. Potentiates the E,C, and Y. Also lowers bp.

    Y - Yohimbine HCL. I dunno where you can buy the HCL OTC (you can buy it online), but you can find Yohimbe powder (capsules) and look at the standardized HCL content on the label. It's somewhat effective with men, but VERY effective in women.


    Womans starting doses-
    E - 12.5mg (1/2 of a 25mg tablet)
    C - 100mg (1/2 of a 200mg tablet)
    A - 81mg (baby-asprine)
    Y - 5mg (look at the lable to find how much yohimbine hcl is contained in the yohimbe bark... or just get some yohimbine hcl from supplementdirect.com)

    -split it into 2 doses.
    One with breakfast, and one either 8hrs later or 45mins pretraining.
    (i.e. 7am & 3pm)

    Do cardio on an empty stomach. Either first thing in the morning before breakfast, or after weighttraining.

    Pretty simple.
    Thank You for a real answer instead of wise asses!I always bulk up so I really cant help her with the diet thing and I also show her some stuff in the gym.

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    I was going to agree with thedunhill....not to be a smart ass though. There is a guy at work who tells me about his new workout/weightless plan....every 2 to 3 weeks! He NEVER looses weight though. I ask him if he is still chasing the doughnut.... He just doesn't get it! I had to actually explain to him that, no matter how much you workout, you won't lose weight unti you eat better! Then I had to break it down for him...."Look, you can eat a double hamburger, lg fries & a shake, run an extra 2 miles & think you'll lose weight.....NO, you wont lose weight! You'd have to run an extra 20 miles to burn all that crap off!". Today, he's still eating garbage....and he's still FAT too.

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    My mom married someone who took 2x the recommended doseage of Metabolife. He had a stroke at the time. He filed suit and was awarded 600k. He is still overweight at over 300 lbs at maybe 5.5 ft tall. Yep, the answer sure is in a pill huh?
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    btw, if weight loss could be obtained in pill form, no one here could afford a weeks supply.
    Eliminate all of the guesswork concerning quality and your health in your legitimate HRT needs. www.alinshop.in

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    Shes down 10 pounds without diet pills just change diet doing more cardio,I was just asking the question to get feed back.

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    What's with all the negative feedback?

    This is Anabolex, isn't it? Dont' we talk about performance-enhancing drugs here? Admonishing the dudes ol'lady for a lack of discipline (or more likely a lack of knowledge) isn't going to help her at all.

    It's not like the average person knows that eating a carbohydrate within 4-6hrs of bedtime will increase fat storage... Or that they should never eat carbs and fats at the same time (or why)... Or that the body cannot store protein the way it stores fat and carbs, and that it needs a constant supply (of protein).

    [/end laymens terms]

    The average person doesn't know this... and usaully doesn't care. This is a results-based society and if everybody was as inquisitive as I am (we are)... guys like me would never have any clients.

    It's like a guy telling you he wants to be rich and you reply "you fucking idiot, work like a slave for 40years and save money!" It doesn't help him one bit. Sure, you know the ins and outs of trading/investing/alpha/contango/ect... but he doesn't, and probably never will. All he wants is results. The same (probably) with the OP's ol'lady.
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    Slin, for the BBr there is some value in the eca stack or even clen but that is cause the last couple pounds matter so much. For the average person they are almost useless. Check out the studies and then look at the adds... you'll see crap like "burned 20% more fat than the control group on a calorie restricted diet... but when you check the study you'll see something like the placebo group lost 6 lbs in 12 weeks and the "whateverdietpill" group lost 7.2 lbs... the diff in results are minimal and IMHO just not worth It for 99.999% of the public.
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    I agree with Insulin Shock. I have had good luck with the ECAY stack but you have to also do some cardio and calorie restriction. I also agree that some Nolvadex helps women burn that problem hip/thigh female distribution fat but it can mess up their menstrual cycles. 10mg daily is probably better than 20mg as far as side effects go.

    Also, not to be a smartass, it's LOSE fat. Loose is the opposite of fat and looses and loosing are not words. It's loses and losing. Sorry. Pet peeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dover View Post
    My wife is trying to loose weight whats a good cycle or pill for her?Thanks
    Do you have her diet critiqued first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insulin_Shock View Post
    What's with all the negative feedback?

    This is Anabolex, isn't it? Dont' we talk about performance-enhancing drugs here? Admonishing the dudes ol'lady for a lack of discipline (or more likely a lack of knowledge) isn't going to help her at all.

    It's not like the average person knows that eating a carbohydrate within 4-6hrs of bedtime will increase fat storage... Or that they should never eat carbs and fats at the same time (or why)... Or that the body cannot store protein the way it stores fat and carbs, and that it needs a constant supply (of protein).

    [/end laymens terms]

    The average person doesn't know this... and usaully doesn't care. This is a results-based society and if everybody was as inquisitive as I am (we are)... guys like me would never have any clients.

    It's like a guy telling you he wants to be rich and you reply "you fucking idiot, work like a slave for 40years and save money!" It doesn't help him one bit. Sure, you know the ins and outs of trading/investing/alpha/contango/ect... but he doesn't, and probably never will. All he wants is results. The same (probably) with the OP's ol'lady.
    Thank You for being serious some of these people probably never seen a gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB2K View Post
    I agree with Insulin Shock. I have had good luck with the ECAY stack but you have to also do some cardio and calorie restriction. I also agree that some Nolvadex helps women burn that problem hip/thigh female distribution fat but it can mess up their menstrual cycles. 10mg daily is probably better than 20mg as far as side effects go.

    Also, not to be a smartass, it's LOSE fat. Loose is the opposite of fat and looses and loosing are not words. It's loses and losing. Sorry. Pet peeve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dover View Post
    Thank You for being serious some of these people probably never seen a gym.
    I'd be willing to bet that everyone that replied works out. They are probably just sick of lazy people looking for an easy way out(not saying your wife is).

    Like others have said, I wouldn't bother with drugs to lose weight unless your wife is at an already low bf. Find a good diet and exercise regime and that should be enough. I just started reading The ultimate diet 2.0 by Lyle McDonald, I have been told by some very credible sources that this works quite well. Try googling it, it's available for free on the net. It's far from conventional but the results I've heard about are hard to argue with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielC View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that everyone that replied works out. They are probably just sick of lazy people looking for an easy way out(not saying your wife is).

    Like others have said, I wouldn't bother with drugs to lose weight unless your wife is at an already low bf. Find a good diet and exercise regime and that should be enough. I just started reading The ultimate diet 2.0 by Lyle McDonald, I have been told by some very credible sources that this works quite well. Try googling it, it's available for free on the net. It's far from conventional but the results I've heard about are hard to argue with.
    I think I still have Lyle's notes/emails from his first venture into Dan Duchaine's Bodyopus from back in '97. If I can find'em, I'll post'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insulin_Shock View Post
    I think I still have Lyle's notes/emails from his first venture into Dan Duchaine's Bodyopus from back in '97. If I can find'em, I'll post'em.
    Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielC View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that everyone that replied works out. They are probably just sick of lazy people looking for an easy way out(not saying your wife is).

    Like others have said, I wouldn't bother with drugs to lose weight unless your wife is at an already low bf. Find a good diet and exercise regime and that should be enough. I just started reading The ultimate diet 2.0 by Lyle McDonald, I have been told by some very credible sources that this works quite well. Try googling it, it's available for free on the net. It's far from conventional but the results I've heard about are hard to argue with.
    Trust me my wife isnt lazy but I hear you,shes doing good,Thanks for the info.

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    I like the eat less move more method, also clen and t3 are good for weight loss.

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    All the diet advice above, plus others I've found that I like:
    Green Tea Extract
    CLA
    L-Carnitine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loomis View Post
    All the diet advice above, plus others I've found that I like:
    Green Tea Extract
    CLA
    L-Carnitine
    Have you considered ECA or CLENBUTEROL?

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    If your talking OTC, thermolean and t2 fat destroyer by Pro-RX are really good and C-4 by powerlab nutrition is the strongest OTC fat burner I have seen. Used them both while bulking and can tell you they are both great, infact im doing clen and T3 now and think I may have seen more fat loss with the C-4, very strong. All the products from powerlab nutrition are great and the strongest out OTC with no question especially their pro hormones I used their old androlbol and it was like being on a cycle with no waiting for gains, only thing you have to really watch the liver because they are so strong. I still think the androbol had something really in it. Check them out at www.powerlabnutrition.com, good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    If you really want to loss weight then you can use some points :

    Do not use high fat foot.
    The toe jam can add extra calories too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathknell3000 View Post
    The toe jam can add extra calories too!
    What's the leaner part...the heel or the balls? What's better for leaning...flat or high arch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    If you really want to loss weight then you can use some points :

    Do not use high calories food.
    Do not use high fat foot.
    Workout daily 2 to 3 time in a day.
    and if you want to use some pills for weight loss then you can use some natural weight loss pills.
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    My friends wants to loose some weights but it didn`t know how can it so please give some pills or information...
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    True ,I remember from my days on the boards way back ,, The ECA Stack is still a good fat burner ,just that Ephedrine is harder to get now since people use it to make Meth & dumb azz kids take like 10 of them & have a heart attack ,you use to be able to but it anywhere,Im sure you can find it online...

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    Nice community dude, exactly the same information which I was looking for. So its my pleasure top have this thread.
    Well I wanna add something green tea is also good for weight lose...
    Last edited by tulip; 04-07-2012 at 07:22 AM.

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    Hey, obviously I'm going to have to agree with the posts above (since there is no magic pill), but along with a nice diet and exercise routine, taking Lean Xtreme has been extremely helpful for me. I lost some body fat and even put on a bit of weight. Good stuff.
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    In my point of view,
    some cardio exercises, walking and swimming ...
    these are the best way to lose weight and fat ...

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    Try DNP and I need to said that if you disrespect this chemical...yes will break you off. But as long you do what you suppose to like not to exceed dosage, clean diet, no more than 2 weeks at a time, mg by your body weight, etc...you should be good. Bottom line...does not disrespect DNP.Of course, there is cardio, diet and good will.
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