Natural Competitors on crank.. common im curious.

[TheManlord]

So I watched this video today and chuckled at the fact that it is a natural competition. Wouldnt you feel stupid going home with a trophie and a top 3 position in a natural competition after having geared out prior to the show?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEnpKuh7e5w"]YouTube - WORLD NATURAL BODYBUILDING CHAMPION KATHY UNGER[/ame]

Now im curious, a lot of you i am sure have been to natural competitions, what do you say to a guy who cranked out hard and places? is it just a silent thing? when hes doing his solo on stage, do people just smile and pretend not to state the obvious? seems like a big joke to me.

I can see the point in trying for it all natural, i choose to use steroids because its a way of life and could never go back, but for those who want to go as far as they can naturally, isnt it a big kick in the balls when a chick like this comes out of the woodwork and places above you?

[norm240lbs]

Don't be so sure she isn't natural. I know a gal who more muscular than that, is vehemently anti drug, has a natural pro card and has competed several times in the NPC's tested pro-qualifier (Team Universe).

Optimal bone structure, combined with a slightly higher level of testosterone than most women, hard work and a thorough knowledge of physiology (Phd level) have combined to make her an amazing bodybuilder.

It's not always so easy to tell who is juicing and who isn't. Even among men you have those guys who's one-in-a--billion genetic make up results in a physique that lets them look like a bodybuilder without ever having touched weights.

Just saying.....

[thedunhill225]

Don't be so sure she isn't natural. I know a gal who more muscular than that, is vehemently anti drug, has a natural pro card and has competed several times in the NPC's tested pro-qualifier (Team Universe).

Optimal bone structure, combined with a slightly higher level of testosterone than most women, hard work and a thorough knowledge of physiology (Phd level) have combined to make her an amazing bodybuilder.

It's not always so easy to tell who is juicing and who isn't. Even among men you have those guys who's one-in-a--billion genetic make up results in a physique that lets them look like a bodybuilder without ever having touched weights.

Just saying.....

it is sooo much harder to tell with women... up to a certain point. a woman can have any number of medical issues that turn their natural hormonal system into a "low dose cycle" producer. sure you can tell when its WAY over the top but just being pretty muscular with decent size dont mean they are gearing.

It is truly amazing how easy SOME women can put on muscle post menopause for example. The client I posted pics of amazed me with how rapid her strength and muscle size increased....I know the woman in the vid probably aint post menopausal but thats just an example...a young woman could have PCO and go into menopause in their 30's or 20's... again, just an example of what COULD happen.

Just saying.... Its hard to tell for sure with most woman....up to a point that is.

[TheManlord]

oh i agree on that too, but back to the focus target, how does it make you guys feel or the crowd feel when someone IS gearing in a tested comp but come out negative because of their smarts, doesnt it completely flop the show?

[TheManlord]

someone has to have some first hand experience watching this, common =)

[hardcorpcomp]

heh heh, im 99.9999% sure this girl is not even close to natural lol

[inkman]

So I watched this video today and chuckled at the fact that it is a natural competition. Wouldnt you feel stupid going home with a trophie and a top 3 position in a natural competition after having geared out prior to the show?



Now im curious, a lot of you i am sure have been to natural competitions, what do you say to a guy who cranked out hard and places? is it just a silent thing? when hes doing his solo on stage, do people just smile and pretend not to state the obvious? seems like a big joke to me.

I can see the point in trying for it all natural, i choose to use steroids because its a way of life and could never go back, but for those who want to go as far as they can naturally, isnt it a big kick in the balls when a chick like this comes out of the woodwork and places above you?

Shes natural ?? yeah and I got a bridge I want to sell you. Lets hear what her talking voice sounds like and see her clit... then you will know for sure who is natural.

[inkman]

Don't be so sure she isn't natural. I know a gal who more muscular than that, is vehemently anti drug, has a natural pro card and has competed several times in the NPC's tested pro-qualifier (Team Universe).

Optimal bone structure, combined with a slightly higher level of testosterone than most women, hard work and a thorough knowledge of physiology (Phd level) have combined to make her an amazing bodybuilder.

It's not always so easy to tell who is juicing and who isn't. Even among men you have those guys who's one-in-a--billion genetic make up results in a physique that lets them look like a bodybuilder without ever having touched weights.

Just saying.....

Norm as soon as a woman opens her mouth or her legs I can tell who is on the juice. I dont care what they say or much they oppose steriod use they are still on. Everyone knows that testing for natural bb shows is a joke. Contestants just drop the detectable drugs few weeks out from a show and they show up clean or they use a shit load of HGH. I know women at my gym that are hard as rocks with 16 biceps swear they are natural my sure is a deep voice you have mrs natural.. lol Bullshit

[RQH]

I think there are VERY FEW people in this world who are obsessed enough with bodybuilding to go through the pain and expense of the lifting and the dieting and make it their lifestyle, yet who are NOT obsessed enough to use steroids. I mean, let's get real.

I believe the saying that everyone who looks like they're on steroids is on steroids. There are a few cases of genetic freaks but those are so few and far between that it's not even worth discussing.

[cic]

Who would be one of these "genetic freaks"?
I have a hard time believing any top level BBer is "natural".
Not impossible, I guess, but..............

[Data]

natural is testing clean the day of the show. steroids are in every sport ... even chess.

[ALIN]

heh heh, im 99.9999% sure this girl is not even close to natural lol

She has a fantastic physique regardless.

[drugs-are-bad]

Of she's clean

Here's my ex at 19 years old in the off season. Normally 75 kg competition weight (140kg bench, 220 kg squat).

Won the IFBB Junior Worlds and passed an IOC accredited drug test - therefore, she must have been clean

[KhaMD]

Not to be the devils advocate! But there are medical conditions that can produce surreal results. Most bad, but take a google on A condition called myostatin-related muscle hypertrophy. Typical NATURAL effect is upwards of 35-45% more muscular size then they would have without the condition. Throw in good initial genetics... You have something that is MORE impressive then anything shown above.

Granted its very very rare and doubtful anyone above have this or a related hypertrophy condition... And most persons with such conditions live as normal people. Elite athletics is about talent, mindset commitement, etc.... Not just being a freak

Only point of my post is you can never be sure and when someone works so hard for something, unless you can prove they cheated, you gotta respect it. Plus think of how many dumba$$es think all we do is take gear to get big... No matter what they did they crushed themselves to get there. You Have to respect that.