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    Default Protein Brownie

    After looking for so many recipes, i grabed ideas from here and there and finally made a batch of bars that i, as well as every person who bit into them, found to be tasting amazing. Im not so sure if itd be used for anyone who is really cutting but som1 with a sweet tooth and not looking to spike their blood sugar levels(but if your sensitive to sugar alchols or prefer not to eat it, i gues u woudlnt want to eat this). Everyone whos tasted it says i should sell it.
    Ingredients
    -2 Tbs Natty PB
    -4 Scoops Choclate Penut Flavored Designer Whey Powder
    -3 Scoops Choclate Flavored Optimum Nutrtion Casien Powder
    -1/2 cup Oats
    -1.5 cups sugar free maple syrup
    -1/2 cup splenda
    -4 Tbs FiberSure Fiber Powder
    -1.5 Tbs Canola Oil
    -1/4 cup of water

    Preheat Oven to 375 first.
    Dry Ingredients
    -In a medium sized bowl, combine oats, whey and casien powder, splenda, fiber powder, mix very well. set aside
    Wet Ingredients
    -In large sized mug or small bowl(microwavable), put Pb and sugar free syrup, and microwave for about a minute on hihg power(or depending on how your microwave works, till the pb is easily sturable), take out mug/bowl and mix with a spoon untill the syrup has turned brown from the pb and is completely combined.
    -Now, take the the pb and sugar free syrup mixture and dump it into the dry ingredients. Stir together, and while stiring, add canola oil, water, and almond extract. Stir untill its all compltely combined and is like a thick pancake consistency.
    -Lightly spray a small metal tray(mine was 8X5 in) with Pam Butter Spray For Baking. Dump mixture into tray and spread evenly with spoon. Make sure you get everything outa the bowl(lick the spoon, im sure youll liek the taste).PLace in oven second to lowest rack for no longer then 15 minutes. After its done, take it out and let it sit for at least 30 minutes. Cut evenly into 5 bars.
    Each bar contains
    314 Calories
    31.2g of Protein
    29.4g of Carbs, 5.2 from fiber, 14.4 from sugar alcohol
    9.5g of Fat

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    dont wanna kill your party but heating the protein powder breaks down the amino acids..........i can go into detail but you lose alot of its quality, protein powders are best used in shakes...........

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    ive heard that before, but why? i mean how do companies produce and sell bars that require a heating process to blend teh ingredients together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimitrikkk View Post
    After looking for so many recipes, i grabed ideas from here and there and finally made a batch of bars that i, as well as every person who bit into them, found to be tasting amazing. Im not so sure if itd be used for anyone who is really cutting but som1 with a sweet tooth and not looking to spike their blood sugar levels(but if your sensitive to sugar alchols or prefer not to eat it, i gues u woudlnt want to eat this). Everyone whos tasted it says i should sell it.
    Ingredients
    -2 Tbs Natty PB
    -4 Scoops Choclate Penut Flavored Designer Whey Powder
    -3 Scoops Choclate Flavored Optimum Nutrtion Casien Powder
    -1/2 cup Oats
    -1.5 cups sugar free maple syrup
    -1/2 cup splenda
    -4 Tbs FiberSure Fiber Powder
    -1.5 Tbs Canola Oil
    -1/4 cup of water

    Preheat Oven to 375 first.
    Dry Ingredients
    -In a medium sized bowl, combine oats, whey and casien powder, splenda, fiber powder, mix very well. set aside
    Wet Ingredients
    -In large sized mug or small bowl(microwavable), put Pb and sugar free syrup, and microwave for about a minute on hihg power(or depending on how your microwave works, till the pb is easily sturable), take out mug/bowl and mix with a spoon untill the syrup has turned brown from the pb and is completely combined.
    -Now, take the the pb and sugar free syrup mixture and dump it into the dry ingredients. Stir together, and while stiring, add canola oil, water, and almond extract. Stir untill its all compltely combined and is like a thick pancake consistency.
    -Lightly spray a small metal tray(mine was 8X5 in) with Pam Butter Spray For Baking. Dump mixture into tray and spread evenly with spoon. Make sure you get everything outa the bowl(lick the spoon, im sure youll liek the taste).PLace in oven second to lowest rack for no longer then 15 minutes. After its done, take it out and let it sit for at least 30 minutes. Cut evenly into 5 bars.
    Each bar contains
    314 Calories
    31.2g of Protein
    29.4g of Carbs, 5.2 from fiber, 14.4 from sugar alcohol
    9.5g of Fat
    "I'll try it once with your ingredients as specified!" Sample the results and modify it, get a patent for IT! And sell it at places like "Starbuck's and "Hooters!" LOL
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    Last edited by TangSooDoo; 09-23-2007 at 06:33 PM.

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    BritishBeef can u post a link or two as a reference? im tryin to find it online, and coudnlt find anythign spefic, except one website where a doctor claimed that your body breaks down the protien already and heating it doesnt affect it, but heat does affect vitamins when if heated tomuch can be destroyed, supposvly. I dnt know, i mean i feel energetic after i eat them just liek i would after having a preworkout shake, but anyone else please got any info?

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    tell me how u like them tangsoodoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimitrikkk View Post
    BritishBeef can u post a link or two as a reference? im tryin to find it online, and coudnlt find anythign spefic, except one website where a doctor claimed that your body breaks down the protien already and heating it doesnt affect it, but heat does affect vitamins when if heated tomuch can be destroyed, supposvly. I dnt know, i mean i feel energetic after i eat them just liek i would after having a preworkout shake, but anyone else please got any info?
    hi sorry 4 delay............if you type in whey protein denaturation in google you'll get plenty of articles, even mixing too long in the blender heats it up enough to denature the branch chain amino acids and changes the way your body uses them, especially pre digested protein, which is what most shakes are...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimitrikkk View Post
    tell me how u like them tangsoodoo
    "I will definitely get back to you!" Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JODS
    In general, protein profiles for heat-treated skim milk indicated that whey protein denaturation began at about 40°C, became more rapid at 70°C, and was 95% complete at 85°C.
    Just found this from the journal of diary science. Interesting. Sounded like a damn good protein bar recipe too!

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    I read about protein Denaturation and it sounds pretty legite, but i also found somthing about Renaturation(plus im studying it for microbiology). It had somthin to do with temperature, would putting it back in the fridge let renaturation occur?i mena thats why we put milk in the fridge rite? not making claims, just an hypothesis, so nobody jump the gun on me here with a billion articles tellin me how rong it is and how retarded i am for thinkin suhc a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimitrikkk View Post
    I read about protein Denaturation and it sounds pretty legite, but i also found somthing about Renaturation(plus im studying it for microbiology). It had somthin to do with temperature, would putting it back in the fridge let renaturation occur?i mena thats why we put milk in the fridge rite? not making claims, just an hypothesis, so nobody jump the gun on me here with a billion articles tellin me how rong it is and how retarded i am for thinkin suhc a thing.
    lol no i dont think you can renature protein............

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    i didnt make up that term thgouh, protiens can undergo renaturation. im not sure exactly how it would work with food but i didnt make it up.

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    does anyone know if there is a protein on the market resistant to this?

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    well i mean som protien containers say to include in recipes while others say just mix it water only do not heat etc etc, maybe the way the protien is processed has to do with it and makes it capable to be used? Id liek to know how companies make protien bars if heat denatures protien.

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    Default Too many wannabes Psuedo-sciences on this board!

    Wrong answer!
    Last edited by TangSooDoo; 09-29-2007 at 03:09 AM.

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    wat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimitrikkk View Post
    I read about protein Denaturation and it sounds pretty legite, but i also found somthing about Renaturation(plus im studying it for microbiology). It had somthin to do with temperature, would putting it back in the fridge let renaturation occur?i mena thats why we put milk in the fridge rite? not making claims, just an hypothesis, so nobody jump the gun on me here with a billion articles tellin me how rong it is and how retarded i am for thinkin suhc a thing.
    I'm no scientist but i think you put milk in the fridge to prevent it from denaturing, not to renature it.

    As for protein bars i think the reason that most of them are pretty crap is because of the poor quality protein in them. Don't take my word for it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruys View Post
    I'm no scientist but i think you put milk in the fridge to prevent it from denaturing, not to renature it.

    As for protein bars i think the reason that most of them are pretty crap is because of the poor quality protein in them. Don't take my word for it though.
    That is pretty much the case. Most protein bars use caesinate or soy protein because the consistancy and flavour of these proteins is generally better. Look at the best protein, hydrolised WPI and it is incredibly fine. As soon as its mixed it turns into water whereas caesin goes thick.

    The other issue with commercial protein bars is the preservative, colours and flavours they put in it.

    To make the protein bars taste ok they put sugar or derivitives of sugar into them. This is another reason to avoid them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TangSooDoo View Post
    Wrong answer!
    Don't worry about the "Wrong Answer crap must have been "Mr HYDE,doing the typing! Drowse of to sleep at the keyboard! And "Wat!?"
    Without pseudo-sciences like psychology and a slew of others getting started in the late 1800's and 1900's and becoming real sciences. Steroids, no science, got it's start in the late 1800's and I have your recipe for the brownies. No Intention of disrespect! I'll whip up a batch in in a few days.

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    Denaturing proteins removes specific biological functions. This usually refers to enzymes or proteins with a specific role in an organism.

    Heating a protein source doesnt break it down past amino acids. If heat completely destroyed a protein, cooked meat would not have any value to us, we cook it over 100 degrees. Most of the studies on milk are looking at specific functions of milk proteins which isnt why most people take whey.

    The most common and visible example of protein denaturing is the egg. Cooking the protein denatures the proteins and turns the egg white into a solid. That doesnt mean that the egg white is biologically unavailable to us as a protein.

    The only thing I can think of would be some exotic micro cellular magical mushroom filtered protein that you are paying a ton for. If you're buying it because it has cow bovine serum and you think that'll make you huge, that probably isnt the stuff you want to use in cooking.

    Quite frankly I think alot of the "denatured protein" stuff is bodybuilder bullshit so they can pretend that they dont use steroids and rely on ultamicrofilteredunhydrated whey for gains 40 lbs of muscle while losing 10% body fat.

    Sounds alot better to the general public than I use 2g Test E ew and 1g prop ed. Oh and I have great genetics which you dont. Pretty hard to sell weider or celltech products like that. Or whoever the newest crappy supplement company is.

    Milk gets put in the fridge because of bacteria issues involving pasturization, not really to protect the proteins.

    http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O39...onprotein.html
    Definition of a denatured protein.

    http://class.fst.ohio-state.edu/FST8...ures/Milk2.htm
    Milk proteins if you're interested in them

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    nice post shoes...impressive knowledge

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    soo wats the bottom line, are making recipes using protein powder and stickiin them in the oven a complete waiste of time or is it of som use and i can continue to make them knowing their a nice convience?

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    If you're using whey concentrate or a cheap whey isolate, it should be fine. I do not suggest using a very expensive protein though. Cooking it will probably change the protein so that it won't have the "special" effects that you are paying for.

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    as long as its still a good convinient source of protien im down with it.

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    You can do this, its fine. As people have explained before, denaturing the protein just means you are taking it out of it's complex "folded" shape. When our bodies build proteins they do it one amino acid at a time, meaning we have to break it down to amino acids to use it anyway.
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    Now that the protein issue is resolved I must say I want to try this recipe.

    I especially like the no white sugar in it as I try avoiding all white sugar (sucrose).

    The addition of fiber sounds excellent, as I feel most people don't eat nearly enough of it.
    I want research this Splenda though. I have used molasses as a sweetner in baking and it has worked good, though gives a subtle flavor some may not like.

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    There are recipes out there for home made protein bars that do not involve cooking. pretty much honey, peanut butter and whey etc....I have never made them but reports on here (before the big crash) were pretty favorable. I think one guy's girlfriend was eating them as fast as he made them...had to get her to leave the room lol
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