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    Default Typical powerlifting AAS cycle.

    Powerlifting, weightlifting and bodybuilding are three different sports with three different goals... I'm just wondering, but what would a powerlifters typical 12 weeks cycle look like? Same as everyone else? An androgenic, an anabolic and orals for 4-6 weeks? I could see the powerlifter using the orals at the end of the cycle, versus the beginning due to contest and meets etc...

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    I havent done AAS yet, but a typical cycle (of the PLers I know) would be:

    Test 500-750 (1-12)
    tren 300-500 (1-12)
    Dbol/drol/halo 30 (1-4/9-12)

    or the guy i know that's been juicing for 25+years...

    test 500
    deca 400
    dbol/drol/winny (moderate doses at various times)
    tren 300
    plus slin (he is diabetic)

    This guy basically throws in whatever he has on hand and runs everything for 8-12 wks... he does the "everything but the kitchen sink" approach lol

    my planned first cycle will be:
    superdrol 30 mg (1-4)
    Prop 600mg (2-8)

    2nd cycle (expensive!):
    Test E 250 (1-12)
    prop 400 (1-10)
    Tren 400 (1-10)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrias View Post
    I havent done AAS yet, but a typical cycle (of the PLers I know) would be:

    Test 500-750 (1-12)
    tren 300-500 (1-12)
    Dbol/drol/halo 30 (1-4/9-12)

    or the guy i know that's been juicing for 25+years...

    test 500
    deca 400
    dbol/drol/winny (moderate doses at various times)
    tren 300
    plus slin (he is diabetic)

    This guy basically throws in whatever he has on hand and runs everything for 8-12 wks... he does the "everything but the kitchen sink" approach lol

    my planned first cycle will be:
    superdrol 30 mg (1-4)
    Prop 600mg (2-8)

    2nd cycle (expensive!):
    Test E 250 (1-12)
    prop 400 (1-10)
    Tren 400 (1-10)


    More like:

    1-2 grams of a long acting test ew 1-15
    1 gram of either deca or eq ew 1-15
    100mg tren a ed or 600-800 mg tren e ew 7-15
    100/100 d-bol/drol ed 6-15
    susp 50mg and halo 50mg pre workout 1-15
    4-10 iu hgh ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongman View Post
    More like:

    1-2 grams of a long acting test ew 1-15
    1 gram of either deca or eq ew 1-15
    100mg tren a ed or 600-800 mg tren e ew 7-15
    100/100 d-bol/drol ed 6-15
    susp 50mg and halo 50mg pre workout 1-15
    4-10 iu hgh ed
    Well, I was trying to list the more moderate cycles

    The one lifter I know that does cycles like the above is starting to develop some serious health problems... but if you can handle it, more power to ya!
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    1-2 grams of a long acting test ew 1-15
    1 gram of either deca or eq ew 1-15
    100mg tren a ed or 600-800 mg tren e ew 7-15
    100/100 d-bol/drol ed 6-15
    susp 50mg and halo 50mg pre workout 1-15
    4-10 iu hgh ed

    OMG that is HARDCORE
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    whats strongman posted is not uncommon for allot of big time lifters pre meet phase. Allot of lifters use 1cc of test a week until they are 15 or so week out then you see something like he posted.

    Im currently running 500mg test E weekly with tren a 100mg e.o.d. with some anadrol and have cheque drops on hand for the meet. The amt of test I was taking was 250mg a week. for most people what I am taking is more than enough to make rather large gains. One big name lifter I am friends with has told me he notices no more gains form 1 gram a week to up to 2.5 grams like he has taken for a meet.

    I do not know of nay pl'er that uses prop, the shit is painful as hell and you half to inject frequently. A wise friend once told me long low dose cycles are a key to steady gains, he was right(you generally are strongman)

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    Was Common to use 100-200 mg day test sup last 10 days 2 weeks. Halo, anavar and tren were favorites when needing to make wt for a class.
    When using Test susp in that manner it was easy to get tendonitis with the big strength surge.Had to be careful with that. Test, tren and anadrol was simple and very effective.

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    Does that kinda follow the "however much you want to total, that's how much you want to take" philosophy?

    Don't misunderstand, I'm not knocking what folks a shit ton stronger than me do. That cycle makes sense for what it's intended to accomplish, but damn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbc3po View Post
    whats strongman posted is not uncommon for allot of big time lifters pre meet phase. Allot of lifters use 1cc of test a week until they are 15 or so week out then you see something like he posted.

    Im currently running 500mg test E weekly with tren a 100mg e.o.d. with some anadrol and have cheque drops on hand for the meet. The amt of test I was taking was 250mg a week. for most people what I am taking is more than enough to make rather large gains. One big name lifter I am friends with has told me he notices no more gains form 1 gram a week to up to 2.5 grams like he has taken for a meet.

    I do not know of nay pl'er that uses prop, the shit is painful as hell and you half to inject frequently. A wise friend once told me long low dose cycles are a key to steady gains, he was right(you generally are strongman)
    thanks, and yes, low and long term is the best way. If you take your time developing strength and even size to a point it will stay with you. A little long acting test, some gh and throw in an anabolic and oral nearing a meet is all anyone needs.

    It's safer in many ways and leads steady strength/performance gains. Taking this approach also leads to more predictability on the platform and a better chance at peak control.

    As far as prop goes I totally agree, I know a few big boys that a shoot a 10ml bottle the thurs before a comp, but as far as running as a primary, is does not serve a purpose. Some will argue water weight control, but if take your time and get to know your body and learn a little about hydration, you should be able to look the same and perform the same on any ester of test.

    250-500mg test e, c or sust, 200-400 eq and 4iu hgh. You can grow and grow and get stronger year round. Every meet adding pounds to your total and doing it while avoiding injuries for the most part.

    Think smart, low dose, long term and have a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongman View Post
    thanks, and yes, low and long term is the best way. If you take your time developing strength and even size to a point it will stay with you. A little long acting test, some gh and throw in an anabolic and oral nearing a meet is all anyone needs.

    It's safer in many ways and leads steady strength/performance gains. Taking this approach also leads to more predictability on the platform and a better chance at peak control.

    As far as prop goes I totally agree, I know a few big boys that a shoot a 10ml bottle the thurs before a comp, but as far as running as a primary, is does not serve a purpose. Some will argue water weight control, but if take your time and get to know your body and learn a little about hydration, you should be able to look the same and perform the same on any ester of test.

    250-500mg test e, c or sust, 200-400 eq and 4iu hgh. You can grow and grow and get stronger year round. Every meet adding pounds to your total and doing it while avoiding injuries for the most part.

    Think smart, low dose, long term and have a plan.
    Really, no one uses prop? damnit... I was going to use prop because I can get it really cheap, even cheaper than enanthate, might have to rethink this plan...

    and if I didn't think kids might be in my future, you could bet your ass I would be on year round!
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    as far as prop goes a lot of the guys doing big cycles don't do it because to get the 1-2 grams would be using a whole vial or two a week with multiple injections. if you are only doing a low dose cycle and don't mind the frequent injections (EOD at the least), it is as good as any test.

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    Thanks NitroPrime for starting this thread, as an experiencd powerlifter, but novice aas user I often wonder the same thing. I started a thread a few days ago concerning my test cyp regime, and how I'm getting bigger and leaner but not much stronger. I've added tren to the mix about 4 days ago. I lift weights to be stronger not prettier! I'm gorgeous already

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    Hi fellas i have been researching cycles similar to this for some time and here is a good read that i found, others here may have already seen this before. My apologies if it is to long but was unsure if links are allowed?

    Q: Hello, Mr. Rea. I am competing at a power lifting event in a few months and wanted to know what AAS work best for strength increases? The event is untested and I can gain all the weight I want. I have over 4 months to get ready.

    A: I often relate to readers the absolute necessity for protocols being designed for a "specific intent" rather than the "everything including the kitchen sink" approach. Often I review past protocols that have been employed by athletes and find a countless number of so-called stacks that actually have counter-productive chemistry included in their structure. When the goal is to induce a significant response of some type, it seems idiocy at best to include drugs, supplements or training that act to mitigate the effects of any positive part of the protocol. Of course a progressive approach to a power cycle is no exception.

    Know The Goal

    The average training approach for a power meet is commonly done in a progressive weight/descending rep manner. I realize that it sounds rather simplistic to say, but we first have to decide the goals of a protocol if we are to correctly choose specific chemistry that best facilitates its requirements best. The goal here is: 1. An increase in muscle mass to better carry the upcoming increase in maximum weight-load 2. Followed by a period of teaching new tissue to contract at a maximum rate (and teach old tissue to work with the new) 3. And a final period of maximizing neurological stimulus between the brain and the target muscle groups for best muscle fiber pattern recruitment. In this case we realize that an athlete would likely use a 12 week training plan divided into 4 week intervals with a Lean Tissue Growth Phase, Fiber Recruitment Phase and Maximum Neural Stimulation Phase. As we have discussed many time before (like in the prior question as well), the body employs Action/Reaction Factors to maintain homeostasis. In that lies the best way to construct our chemistry specific protocol to compliment our training requirements and goal.

    Plan For Power Example 1

    Lean Tissue Growth Phase

    Day

    1. Oxandrolone 50mg/Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    2. Oxandrolone 50mg

    3. Oxandrolone 50mg

    4. Oxandrolone 50mg

    5. Oxandrolone 25mg/Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    6. Oxandrolone 25mg

    7. Oxandrolone 25mg

    8. Oxandrolone 25mg

    9. Oxandrolone 12.5mg/Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    10. Oxandrolone 12.5mg

    11.

    12. Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    13.

    14.

    15.

    16. Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    17.

    18.

    19.

    20. Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    21.

    22.

    23.

    24. Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    25.

    26.

    27.

    28. Boldenone Udecyclenate 200mg/Nandrolone Decanoate 200mg

    *Administration dosages are based upon a bodyweight of 200-220 lbs

    Lean Tissue Growth Phase

    Oxandrolone, nandrolone and boldenone are all highly anabolic/low-moderate androgenic AAS with the latter two possessing only low to moderate aromatization potential. This allows for a high rate of protein synthesis and "lean mass" accumulation with only moderate neuronet stimulation. Since this period of training is predominantly structured from a 12-15 rep protocol, the need for a higher degree of protein synthesis is mandatory. As we have discussed prior, the body has many intricate Action/Reaction Factors to consider: By increasing the amount of lean tissue an athlete carries we are better able to increase total weight and work-load capacities needed for the next phase. By limiting the degree of estrogenic activity the accumulation of excess fat is hindered thus providing a better nutrient partitioning focus upon lean tissue and fewer issues in relation to blood pressure and edema at this time. For the most part the body easily deals with brief elevations in blood pressure rather well. But by no means is 12 weeks a brief period of time. Remembering that the body has time frames for Action/Reaction Factors for most physiological events, it would be unwise to stimulate the neuronet as of yet to any real degree as the result is a sluggish CNS (central nervous system) by the time the

    Plan For Power Example 1

    Fiber Recruitment Phase

    Day

    29. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    30. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    31. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    32. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    33. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    34. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    35. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    36. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    37. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    38. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    39. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    40. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    41. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    42. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    43. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    44. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    45. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    46. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    47. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    48. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    49. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    50. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    51. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    52. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    53. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    54. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    55. Methandrostenolone 40mg

    56. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Boldenone Undecyclenate 200mg Methandrostenolone 40mg

    *Administration dosages are based upon a bodyweight of 200-220 lbs

    Fiber Recruitment Phase

    During the Fiber Recruitment Phase, synergistic chemistry that significantly increases total body mass, fosters an improved weight bearing foundation and continues to support an increased rate of protein synthesis is needed. The reason is due to an increase in weight-load and decrease in the number of reps performed weekly during each successive work-outs. The body’s reaction to this is triggering an increase in the number of muscle fibers recruited with each rep. The use of a testosterone allows for an increase in androgenic activity resulting in better neuronet stimulation and an improvement in muscle fiber recruitment numbers and patterns. Since testosterone aromatizes an up-regulation in the body’s water table is realized. This means that muscle tissue is fuller and firmer allowing for a better foundation to leverage weight with and from. It’s like the difference between building a house on sand or rock. The latter will support a much greater weight-load. Methandrostenolone is highly androgenic and quite anabolic thus having respectable synergistic value with testosterone. In fact there have probably been more power athletes build with these two AAS than any other 3 stacks combined. However, monitoring of blood pressure during use of this combination is paramount as both tend to draw a great deal of water into the vascular system. Most larger athletes (240 lbs or better), have above average blood pressure readings. In most cases this is due to a larger heart is required to supply blood to a larger body. The administration of 20mg of Lasix nightly is commonly employed by chemically enhanced athletes when blood pressure is over 160/100…though this is certainly not a recommendation. The addition of boldenone? To aid in maintaining the elevated state of anabolism as there is still a great deal of tissue growth occurring.

    Plan For Power Example 1

    Maximum Neural Stimulation Phase

    Day

    57. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    58. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    59. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    60. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate/75mg Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    61. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    62. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    63. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    64. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    65. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    66. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    67. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    68. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate/75mg Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    69. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    70. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    71. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    72. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    73. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    74. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    75. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    76. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    77. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    78. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    79. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    80. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    81. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    82. Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    83. Fluoxymesterone 20mg
    84. Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/Trenbolone Acetate 75mg/Fluoxymesterone 20mg (Meet Day)

    *Administration dosages are based upon a bodyweight of 200-220 lbs

    *Optional: Day 74-83 Humulin-R 10iu 2xd with creatine monohydrate 10g & BCAA 10g

    Maximum Neural Stimulation Phase

    At this point in the protocol our example athlete has increased weight-loads significantly and drop the rep count to triples and singles. This means the need for the best connection possible between the brain and muscles should be accentuated by the chemistry employed.

    Most readers are aware of the excitatory hormones adrenaline and noradrenaline or may know them as epinephrine and norepinephrine respectively. When secreted by the adrenal gland, these hormones travel the vascular system until they contact their adrenalgenic receptors in various tissues including muscle, heart and brain. Once receptors are stimulated the result is CNS stimulation and a series of fight or flight reactions…including an increase in the number of muscle fibers recruited to perform any given task (Like moving way more weight than is normally humanly possible). This is the reason so many lifting and athletic federations ban the use of ephedrine products also. The mind/muscle connection is improved allowing for greater employment of every muscle fiber under load.

    Most AAS androstane structures possess an adrenalgenic stimulatory effect. The magnitude of this effect is decided by the level of androgenic value the drug maintains. For anyone who has had to stand in a DMV or Post Office line while administering Halotestin, this is stating the obvious. (Ya, I would like to see a half dozen of my favorite Halo/Fina/Methyltest stacking muscle freaks on the Jerry Springer show. Who cares what the topic is!) The use of fluoxymesterone at this point in the protocol is a no-brainer as its androgenic/adrenalgenic effects are well noted by the strongest men in the world. The addition of trenbolone has a synergistic androstane value of course with the additional value of a very high rate of protein synthesis occurring as well.

    Testosterone enanthate? As you will recall the importance of having a profound increase in weight bearing foundation is paramount to big numbers.

    All In The Planning

    The need for this example to be laid out in 3 four week phases is intended to create a series of adaptive responses best for working within the body’s Action/Reaction time frames for peak power output. The addition of a decent diet and appropriate training was necessary for maximum effect of course. And…

    I know of more than a few standing world records accomplished by those using this protocol. Some added injectable ATP and most used the creatine/insulin loading layer. But all realized results to brag about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongman View Post
    More like:

    1-2 grams of a long acting test ew 1-15
    1 gram of either deca or eq ew 1-15
    100mg tren a ed or 600-800 mg tren e ew 7-15
    100/100 d-bol/drol ed 6-15
    susp 50mg and halo 50mg pre workout 1-15
    4-10 iu hgh ed
    Fuck, do you do dialysis every other day?
    I am watching....

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    This was a great read. Thank you kinmassive!

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    Yeah I liked it to.

    It was originally written by L.Rea who is renowned for his steroid knowledge, he has written a few books.
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