what should i do for my pct?

[tickle7110]

im doing 250mg of test and 250mg of eq every 4 days for 10 weeks..what should my dosage be for nolva and clomid for my pct?

[drob29]

Originally Posted by tickle7110

im doing 250mg of test and 250mg of eq every 4 days for 10 weeks..what should my dosage be for nolva and clomid for my pct?

posts like this piss me off. Jesus....shouldnt you have figured that all out before you started your cycle?

do somthing like this..

2 weeks after your last test shot (your using test E?)

week 1 clomid 50 mg ed nolva 40 mg ed
week 2 clomid 50 mg ed nolva 30 mg ed
week 3 nolva 20 mg ed

use the seach button up top and do some research and dont expect to be spoon fed, especially once you start a cycle. It's not like your planning your cycle and asking for advice, your mid cycle and dont know how to run PCT, which is just foolish.

like jumping out of a plane, and saying "now what do I do?"

[mars1970]

Then don't bother too answer, especially if you are going to give bad advice.
OP, the deca will shut you down big time, always stop the deca 2wks before the test.
That however would be too short, so run the test for 12wks and stop the deca at wk 10.
Hcg would be agood idea @ 500iu 2xwk from wk9-12, this will help kickstart things, def needed when running deca, also you need a decent PCT.
Wk 12-16 clomid 100/50/50/50
Wk 12-16 nolva 40/20/20/20.

[drob29]

Originally Posted by mars1970

Then don't bother too answer, especially if you are going to give bad advice.
OP, the deca will shut you down big time, always stop the deca 2wks before the test.
That however would be too short, so run the test for 12wks and stop the deca at wk 10.
Hcg would be agood idea @ 500iu 2xwk from wk9-12, this will help kickstart things, def needed when running deca, also you need a decent PCT.
Wk 12-16 clomid 100/50/50/50
Wk 12-16 nolva 40/20/20/20.

what deca?????

there is no deca in the cycle mars. And my advice is solid, by the way.

Your PCT would work and is great if he was running deca, but since he is using eq and not deca the PCT I posted would be fine.

Edit: actually your PCT starts at week 12, where it should have started two weeks after the last test shot to allow test levels to bottom out, so your PCT would be fine if he was running deca (which he is not) and you recommended starting at week 14 (which you didnt)

[mars1970]

Originally Posted by drob29

what deca?????

there is no deca in the cycle mars. And my advice is solid, by the way.

Your PCT would work and is great if he was running deca, but since he is using eq and not deca the PCT I posted would be fine.

Edit: actually your PCT starts at week 12, where it should have started two weeks after the last test shot to allow test levels to bottom out, so your PCT would be fine if he was running deca (which he is not) and you recommended starting at week 14 (which you didnt)

My appologies, no deca. Your PCT is still totally inadequate ime, i'd love to see bloods taken 4wks after that PCT. 12wks of test and eq will require a comprehensive PCT of at least 4wks and i'd probably stretch the nolva to a fifth wk, you really need to shut the estrogen receptors in the hypothalmus down for at least 4wks to get any substantial increase in LH and FSH.
Just check any clinical endo site on hypothalmic reaction to serms.

[drob29]

Originally Posted by mars1970

My appologies, no deca. Your PCT is still totally inadequate ime, i'd love to see bloods taken 4wks after that PCT. 12wks of test and eq will require a comprehensive PCT of at least 4wks and i'd probably stretch the nolva to a fifth wk, you really need to shut the estrogen receptors in the hypothalmus down for at least 4wks to get any substantial increase in LH and FSH.
Just check any clinical endo site on hypothalmic reaction to serms.

I agree, it is light. I was thinking with the lower test that a lighter PCT would be ok but he would probably be better with a minimum of

wk 1 clomid 100 mg ed/nolva 40 mg ed
wk 2 clomid 50 mg ed/nolva 30 mg ed
wk 3 clomid 50 mg ed/nolva 20 mg ed
possibly strech the nolva into week 4.

good info mars, thanks

[jacenty]

My last cycle I did 250 mg omna's for 14 weeks and 400mg eq for 12 weeks. For PCT, I used a different approach this tiime. I ran four 5 day burts of clomid at 100 mgs. With 2 days off between each. I started clomid treatment one month after the last injection of omn.

I had my blood work done one week after the PCT was over.

Those are the results:

FSH 12.7 mIU/ml (range 1.50 - 12.4)
LH 13.54 mIU/ml (1.7 - 8.6)
Testosterone 6.75 ng/ml (range 2.8 - 8.0)

I consider myslef fully recovered.

[tickle7110]

well shit i just asked for help...not for you to tell me im an idiot. If anyone asked for my help on something i wouldnt tell them they are dumb, in other words, i would be helpful and try not to make them feel dumb. but thanks for your help anyways...i appreciate it

[jacenty]

who calls you an idiot?

[tickle7110]

drob...in other words he did...oh well thanks for all your help! What about HCG? is that a good idea?

[awal]

Originally Posted by mars1970

My appologies, no deca. Your PCT is still totally inadequate ime, i'd love to see bloods taken 4wks after that PCT. 12wks of test and eq will require a comprehensive PCT of at least 4wks and i'd probably stretch the nolva to a fifth wk, you really need to shut the estrogen receptors in the hypothalmus down for at least 4wks to get any substantial increase in LH and FSH.
Just check any clinical endo site on hypothalmic reaction to serms.

so, considering this info on the hypothalamus, do you think any pct with a serm should be run for atleast 4 weeks?