trt choices

spiderman7 · 07-27-2008, 04:34 PM

I was sat down at my first appointment at the trt clinic. I was shown various methods actually 5. Testim,Androgel, pills ,test e, and cream. The clinic seemed
to be pushing the transdermals. What is the truth when it comes to trt? I would of assumed that injectable test works best. Any opinions?

highliner · 09-21-2008, 04:19 PM

I use androgel. It works for me.

unqimg · 09-23-2008, 04:34 PM

Ive been on TRT for 3+ years now and the gels never worked for me. I used Testim and Androgel to no avail. Test Cypionate worked ok but my levels never got over 300 no matter how much I was taking. Then again, I say that in regards to how much my doc told me to take which was never more then 1.5 cc a week. I am now taking Test Enthinate (spelling) at 1.5 cc every other week and my levels are still around 300, 350 once in the past 5 months. I have recently asked my doc to switch me to sustanon as I have read in many places that it works the best for levels and for libido. Good luck

Elvis Parsley · 09-23-2008, 08:04 PM

I also use androgel. started with 1 pack if 5 G. Noticed a little bit as I started to work out again after many years. toned up all over a lot more than I had been in years and lost a little weight. Doc upped me to the pump which is the equivalent to 2 packs of 5 g for a total of 10 g. which is 8 pumps.

Just started that about a week ago but hopefully I'll notice more. If not I'm going to take the shots every 2 weeks and see how that goes.

If I had a choice like you I'd probably go with the shots but I wanted to see how the adnrogel worked first. Now I know but I'm glad that I had a chance to find out.

Good luck.

Deca · 09-24-2008, 12:11 AM

dude at 1.5cc of 200mg test =300mg test per week your levels should be well above 300ng/dl after 10 weeks..

unqimg · 09-24-2008, 10:37 AM

You would think right? Well my highest level to date was 352 and thats was 3 days after taking a 1.55 cc shot of TEST C.

garyt1975 · 09-24-2008, 12:00 PM

You would think right? Well my highest level to date was 352 and thats was 3 days after taking a 1.55 cc shot of TEST C.

are you taking any oral steroids or other medications?

unqimg · 09-24-2008, 12:25 PM

No, nothing. Just Cypionate at the moment.

spiderman7 · 09-25-2008, 09:26 PM

Been on Testim now for about 4 weeks. I can say the first two weeks things were rocking a bit,dreams, mourning wood... After that its felt like I'm back to my old self. Go back in a week and see why I felt like Superman the first two and then nothing.

ogri9881 · 09-28-2008, 08:50 AM

The "problem" with HRT (IMHO) is that unless you are really LOW (clinical hypo, with high stim hormones, but just low test output), then your body's feedback mechanism works against whatever kind of test you are using. I started on compounded gel (100mg/ml, 1 cc EOD, but now up to 3 cc EOD) ... works fine for a while, then things balance out. I'm going to "cycle" HRT (so HPTA axis returns to normal) ... spike it more.. and try HGH for long-term effectiveness (btw, I'm 52 ...) As Arnold said, "you must surprise your muscles" ... same goes for hormones!

dysfunctional · 09-28-2008, 10:01 AM

There is a big difference between alot of us on TRT. There are the older guys that have slightly lowered levels but still producing decent amounts of their own test (they will have the negative feedback effect). There are post cycle guys that are low but may eventually recover with proper PCT or absence of exogenous test. Then there are the ones that need TRT the most that have actual super low levels <8nmol. With these guys the replacement test will just barely make them feel normal and will likely need decent amounts.

libertycoach · 10-02-2008, 06:14 AM

unquimg wrote:
You would think right? Well my highest level to date was 352 and thats was 3 days after taking a 1.55 cc shot of TEST C.

Ask about adding in proviron and hcg or hmg. 3 days is not a significant of time to see changes with slow acting esters such a test C.

LC

unqimg · 10-02-2008, 10:45 AM

I already ordered Proviron on my own. I have not gotten HCG yet but am considering it. Being that HCG increases estrogen, would the Proviron counteract the benefit?

Elvis Parsley · 10-04-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unqimg

I already ordered Proviron on my own. I have not gotten HCG yet but am considering it. Being that HCG increases estrogen, would the Proviron counteract the benefit?

hcg should help you out immensely and with the added benifit of proviron you get an anabolic effect as well as an estrogen blocker.

I think you'll get the best results with both drugs. I don't think that the proviron will take away any good side effects of the hcg.

Go for it and let us know how it goes.

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09-21-2008, 04:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
highliner Member highliner's Stats Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 58 Status: Offline highliner's Info Location: Mass. Country:	I use androgel. It works for me.

09-23-2008, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
unqimg Member unqimg's Stats Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 67 Status: Online unqimg's Info Location: Country:	Ive been on TRT for 3+ years now and the gels never worked for me. I used Testim and Androgel to no avail. Test Cypionate worked ok but my levels never got over 300 no matter how much I was taking. Then again, I say that in regards to how much my doc told me to take which was never more then 1.5 cc a week. I am now taking Test Enthinate (spelling) at 1.5 cc every other week and my levels are still around 300, 350 once in the past 5 months. I have recently asked my doc to switch me to sustanon as I have read in many places that it works the best for levels and for libido. Good luck

09-23-2008, 08:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Elvis Parsley Member Elvis Parsley's Stats Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 31 Status: Offline Elvis Parsley's Info Location: Country:	I also use androgel. started with 1 pack if 5 G. Noticed a little bit as I started to work out again after many years. toned up all over a lot more than I had been in years and lost a little weight. Doc upped me to the pump which is the equivalent to 2 packs of 5 g for a total of 10 g. which is 8 pumps. Just started that about a week ago but hopefully I'll notice more. If not I'm going to take the shots every 2 weeks and see how that goes. If I had a choice like you I'd probably go with the shots but I wanted to see how the adnrogel worked first. Now I know but I'm glad that I had a chance to find out. Good luck.

09-24-2008, 12:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Deca Senior Member Deca's Stats Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Status: Offline Deca's Info Location: Country:	dude at 1.5cc of 200mg test =300mg test per week your levels should be well above 300ng/dl after 10 weeks..

09-24-2008, 10:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
unqimg Member unqimg's Stats Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 67 Status: Online unqimg's Info Location: Country:	You would think right? Well my highest level to date was 352 and thats was 3 days after taking a 1.55 cc shot of TEST C.

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garyt1975 Member garyt1975's Stats Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 38 Status: Offline garyt1975's Info Location: Country:	You would think right? Well my highest level to date was 352 and thats was 3 days after taking a 1.55 cc shot of TEST C. are you taking any oral steroids or other medications?

09-24-2008, 12:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
unqimg Member unqimg's Stats Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 67 Status: Online unqimg's Info Location: Country:	No, nothing. Just Cypionate at the moment.

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spiderman7 New Member spiderman7's Stats Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 12 Status: Offline spiderman7's Info Location: Country:	Been on Testim now for about 4 weeks. I can say the first two weeks things were rocking a bit,dreams, mourning wood... After that its felt like I'm back to my old self. Go back in a week and see why I felt like Superman the first two and then nothing.

09-28-2008, 10:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
dysfunctional Member dysfunctional's Stats Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 82 Status: Offline dysfunctional's Info Location: Country:	There is a big difference between alot of us on TRT. There are the older guys that have slightly lowered levels but still producing decent amounts of their own test (they will have the negative feedback effect). There are post cycle guys that are low but may eventually recover with proper PCT or absence of exogenous test. Then there are the ones that need TRT the most that have actual super low levels <8nmol. With these guys the replacement test will just barely make them feel normal and will likely need decent amounts.

10-02-2008, 06:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
libertycoach Member libertycoach's Stats Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 70 Status: Offline libertycoach's Info Location: Country:	unquimg wrote: You would think right? Well my highest level to date was 352 and thats was 3 days after taking a 1.55 cc shot of TEST C. Ask about adding in proviron and hcg or hmg. 3 days is not a significant of time to see changes with slow acting esters such a test C. LC

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unqimg Member unqimg's Stats Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 67 Status: Online unqimg's Info Location: Country:	I already ordered Proviron on my own. I have not gotten HCG yet but am considering it. Being that HCG increases estrogen, would the Proviron counteract the benefit?