Who Makes Blue Tops?

SCJ · 10-01-2008, 12:25 PM

Does anyone know? I imagine it is probably a well known facility that is doing a little back door dealing? Has there been ANY test to see if it truly is 191?

Just curious.

Jay · 10-01-2008, 12:49 PM

I've seen a report posted that it is 191 before the summer I think. But think about it. Anyone can copy the packaging because it has only a blue top. Who knows who it is?
The stuff I've had is good.

VitaA1 · 10-01-2008, 03:54 PM

I just ordered some myself, wish there was an easy way to tell if they are legitimate hGH

liquid_c · 10-01-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SCJ

Does anyone know? I imagine it is probably a well known facility that is doing a little back door dealing? Has there been ANY test to see if it truly is 191?

Just curious.

Underground unlicensed Chinese Companies are making it. God knows what quality, how it is dosed or if it's even 191aa anymore as GH is so expensive and difficult to test. Yet people buy it up like hotcakes. Can't say I blame them, HGH demand is high and good quality HGH made by licensed companies is both hard to get and very expensive.

SCJ · 10-01-2008, 05:20 PM

I'm sure they are licensed in some way. From what I understand, the process and equipment needed to produce the product are VERY cost prohibitive unless you are actually in the business of making HGH. So my thought would be that it is a licensed or at least current/former maker of a branded HGH selling outside regulation to meet the demand.

liquid_c · 10-02-2008, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCJ

I'm sure they are licensed in some way. From what I understand, the process and equipment needed to produce the product are VERY cost prohibitive unless you are actually in the business of making HGH. So my thought would be that it is a licensed or at least current/former maker of a branded HGH selling outside regulation to meet the demand.

They're not licensed in any legitimate way. How they get the equipment is anyone's guess. If they were licensed, they wouldn't be able to even claim/produce 191aa HGH as Jintropin holds the patent in China and no other licensed Chinese company could make it using the method that they do legally in China. The only other licensed Chines companies I knew of Kexing and one other that started with an A, can't remember the name were legit but they made 192aa HGH and sold it as that as they couldn't legally make 191aa.

SCJ · 10-02-2008, 12:32 PM

So how does Lilly make Humatrope? I believe that Genesci produces 191 through "Secretion Technology" and it is that technology that was developed by Lei Jin that is proprietary, you can't patent the substance " 191 chain HGH". Now that Lei Jin is not with Genesci anymore, the blue tops could be his product, on the DL.

trapz · 10-02-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCJ

I'm sure they are licensed in some way. From what I understand, the process and equipment needed to produce the product are VERY cost prohibitive unless you are actually in the business of making HGH. So my thought would be that it is a licensed or at least current/former maker of a branded HGH selling outside regulation to meet the demand.

actually it wouldnt be that cost prohibitive for someone to set up a lab to make hGH 191aa i think via the ecoli method or whatever... way cheaper than you think especially if purchasing used equip from peptide company thats out of business etc... and just having someone that knows how to make it the cheap way they do.

im 99% sure there is def. more than 1 company making them, id say at least 4 or 5

trapz · 10-02-2008, 04:16 PM

an since when do they care about patent laws in china??? LOL

liquid_c · 10-02-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCJ

So how does Lilly make Humatrope? I believe that Genesci produces 191 through "Secretion Technology" and it is that technology that was developed by Lei Jin that is proprietary, you can't patent the substance " 191 chain HGH". Now that Lei Jin is not with Genesci anymore, the blue tops could be his product, on the DL.

They are the only ones patented in China to do so. Doesn't apply to the rest of the world.

BrainRoiden · 10-06-2008, 08:25 PM

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thats pretty much what you'll have to do, right? .. not something you cook up in the bathtub!

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BrainRoiden Senior Member BrainRoiden's Stats Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 263 Status: Offline BrainRoiden's Info Location: Country:	Recombinant DNA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia thats pretty much what you'll have to do, right? .. not something you cook up in the bathtub!