Cjc-1295 & ghrp-6

[guns]

anyone used this?

supposedly better than Gh

opinions from users would be appreciated

[Michael]

Just got mine but haven't started yet, will keep you posted. If you don't already know these products allow your pituatary to release natural gh in a higher than normal pulsatile fashion.

[guns]

yes i know the basic of how it works, but all the info available is in 'study write up form' which is hard to understand.

sounds great but i have just heard of it.

be interested to know how you get on

(check your pm)

[Davemcin]

I had some difficulty in translating the articles about the mcg's that should be injected and finally in my research I read an article that commented 'some body builders are getting good results from only 250 mcgs'.
Formal articles state that a proper dosage would be 30 to 60 mcg's per kilo of body weight. At the price of <>$100 per vial of 2 mg's, that is VERY expensive. I am not fanatical about body building so I purchased 10 vials of CJC1295 from a source in China with the view that I would start with a low dose then work up to higher doses if the low dose was really beneficial. How to dose? My calaculations were as follows: 1 vial = 2 mg. The only injectors I can get are insulin injectors with cc's as the measures. If I diluted the CJC1295 vial with 1cc of BW then each division on the injector would be the corresponding amount of mcg's e.g. 0.1 cc would be equal to 200 mcg's.
I have been using the CJC twice each week for 3 weeks now & I can report that recovery times from cardio & weights work are lessened quite dramatically probably because I sleep much better. I haven't started a 'roid cycle yet & I'm considering whether to start one or to continue the cardio & weights & CJC to see what the results will be.
Comments anyone?

[guns]

vaguely, what is the equivilent dose to that of 2iu/4iu etc of gh?

anyone tried both and what did they prefer, notice differently etc

[shivastool]

Originally Posted by Davemcin

I had some difficulty in translating the articles about the mcg's that should be injected and finally in my research I read an article that commented 'some body builders are getting good results from only 250 mcgs'.
Formal articles state that a proper dosage would be 30 to 60 mcg's per kilo of body weight. At the price of <>$100 per vial of 2 mg's, that is VERY expensive. I am not fanatical about body building so I purchased 10 vials of CJC1295 from a source in China with the view that I would start with a low dose then work up to higher doses if the low dose was really beneficial. How to dose? My calaculations were as follows: 1 vial = 2 mg. The only injectors I can get are insulin injectors with cc's as the measures. If I diluted the CJC1295 vial with 1cc of BW then each division on the injector would be the corresponding amount of mcg's e.g. 0.1 cc would be equal to 200 mcg's.
I have been using the CJC twice each week for 3 weeks now & I can report that recovery times from cardio & weights work are lessened quite dramatically probably because I sleep much better. I haven't started a 'roid cycle yet & I'm considering whether to start one or to continue the cardio & weights & CJC to see what the results will be.
Comments anyone?

You didnt say how much per week you were using. Mind telling?

[Davemcin]

At present I'm injecting 2cc's twice per week. Total of 400 mcg's in my calculations & I'm getting better results than I was getting while on hGH. That is, sleeping better & sensing increasing strength, though I must say I do not train as much as competitive or ardent body builders.

[Davemcin]

I had some difficulty in getting some calcs to answer Guns. But here's what I discovered in another Forum.

"Well first off bud, if you read anecdotal reports from BBers on other boards, theyve had good sucess with dosages as low as 250mcg 2x a week. So keep that in mind when choosing the dosage for you.

For measuring. Say you had 1mg of CJC-1295. You added 1ml of sodium chloride to it to reconstitute the peptide. You now have a potency of 10mcg per IU. An IU is 1 measurement on a U-100 syringe, these are the small insulin syringes that have a total volume of 100 iu's. 100iu's on a U-100 is equivalent to 1ml.

So if you wanted a dosage of 500mcg of the above solution, you would suck up 50iu's of the solution into a U-100 syringe. Its not hard at all!"

You must keep in mind that most CJC1295 comes in vials containing 2 mgs so you would need to check this with your supplier then do the corresponding maths.

[shivastool]

Originally Posted by Davemcin

At present I'm injecting 2cc's twice per week. Total of 400 mcg's in my calculations & I'm getting better results than I was getting while on hGH. That is, sleeping better & sensing increasing strength, though I must say I do not train as much as competitive or ardent body builders.

Are you injecting one vial 2x per week? That would be 4mg EW. I heard thats a good dose but considering the costs its over $100 a week...WAY more than any HGH cycle run.

[Davemcin]

Are you injecting one vial 2x per week? That would be 4mg EW. I heard thats a good dose but considering the costs its over $100 a week...WAY more than any HGH cycle run.

Oops, my apologies. I meant I'm injecting 0.2cc's twice per week & according to my calculations that's 2 * 400 mcg's. This dosage is quite low & I'm inceasing the dosage to 0.3cc's this week. I gave the hGH away because it wasn't doing much for me & I read one article that indicated a side effect of hGH is a large belly. I already have this & don't want one of garguantuan proportions. Among many advantages CJC1295 is supposed to assist in reducing abdominal fat & simultaneously multiply muscle cells.

[Power81]

Bump, how you making out bro?

[Davemcin]

Bump, how you making out bro?

Thank you for asking. I'm now injecting 0.3 cc's twice per week (at the strength I have diluted the CJC1295 I calculate this to be around 1200 mcg's in total)

The change in my daily energy levels can only be described as dramatic. I teach at a local university in China & my energy resources have improved my 'in class' teaching performance about 100%. I will increase the CJC dosage to 0.5cc's twice per week (around 2000 mcg's per week in total) & that's as high as I will go. Although I have used AAS & hGH in the past on a trial basis I have never experienced such a boost in energy levels & these are accompanied by vastly improved sleep. I might also add that it has improved my libido as well & that's quite a statement for a guy of my age.

I feel that I must add to my earlier comment that I am not a fanatical body builder though I do train regularly at a local gym & in addition I use fitness training methods I was taught in the NZ Army when I get bored with the gym work. I am 68 years of age & my training motives must be very different from those of a younger man training to build very large muscles.

[Beachboy]

Do you get any of the same symptoms such as numb hands, water retention for the first little while like HGH. Carpal tunnel like symptoms at all?

[conan202]

is it only energy lvls u are seeing or are you noticing any growth anywere, any BF loss, numbness anything rly. if all your noticing is uncreased energy lvls and better sleep then the price of this product is not worth it at all. U might have to stay on growth longer but you will notice these other things from it. Do u c what i am saying and asking?

Conan

[Davemcin]

Thank you Beachboy for your question. I haven't noticed numb hands, carpal tunnel, water retention etc. I'd be quite worried if I did & I'd quickly abandon any substance if it caused those symptoms.

Thank you Conan for your advice. I haven't noticed much BF loss yet, but I suspect that's because I've been dosing too low so far. I will take note of this but even so I doubt whether I will revert to hGH as in the past it hasn't done anaything for me. Thanks anyway.

[Power81]

Does one neccesarily need to take ghrp6 with cjc1295 for optimal results, and what would ghrp6 do by itself?

I am personaly going to try cjc at 1500mcg/week along with 1000mcg/week of pegmgf and a low test base of 750mg/week to I can tell how well the peptides are working. Just wondering if it is a neccesity to use ghrp6 to get good results.

[cruel.intentions]

I have experience with ghrp-6 let me tell you it makes you hungry, I would say its an enjoyable huger if you have stuff to munch on. Do not take it before the gym however cause it will distract you from the workout. I only used around 150 -200mcg a day.

[C-man]

Sure wish it was legal so I could get some.....

[Power81]

Thats what I was looking for, thanks.

[Power81]

So each 100mcg of cjc and 250mcg of ghrp will be about equal to 5iu? I am not quite sure I could afford doing it 3x/day, but certainly once on off days and twice on training days.