Fina brewers please answer...

[ggekko]

Been looking into the cart fina. My question is this, what is the preferred extraction technique?

Is it the BA/BB o? Methanol? Acetone? Ether really isn't an option for me.

From research I've done, I hear that the acetone method works well but I'd rather stick with BA/BB if it does a good enough job.

Please help me out! Thanx!

[RollingStone]

Crystal fina method.

[bmak]

let the pellets sit in ba for a day and then proceed. easiest way and always had good product.

[svtpower97]

bb and ba with heat 2/20 percentage ratios of your final amount u intend to have...its the easiest way if u never done it before

[maxcamel]

so you dont just crush your pellets and place them in a glass container with only the HEET?
you actualy figure out now much BA and BB you need aswell as oil?...i take it you mix them all with the pellets, lets sit till dissolved....filter with coffee filter...draw up with a few 100cc pulls...attach the.45 whatman, and run into a 20ml vial (if uusing 1 cart)?
then run a fewmls of oil through the whatman to get it all...and shes ready?correct me on my errors please
thanks!

[paullyd99]

Originally Posted by maxcamel

so you dont just crush your pellets and place them in a glass container with only the HEET?
you actualy figure out now much BA and BB you need aswell as oil?...i take it you mix them all with the pellets, lets sit till dissolved....filter with coffee filter...draw up with a few 100cc pulls...attach the.45 whatman, and run into a 20ml vial (if uusing 1 cart)?
then run a fewmls of oil through the whatman to get it all...and shes ready?correct me on my errors please
thanks!

Umm, you would need to do that anyways, no matter what conversion process you were using. Break it down like this:

If you have one cart, use this to dissolve pellets:
.4ml BA
4.0 ml BB

If you have two, use:
.8ml BA
8.0ml BB

Three:
1.2ml BA
12ml BB

and so on...

[gstracer]

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Originally Posted by maxcamel
so you dont just crush your pellets and place them in a glass container with only the HEET?
you actualy figure out now much BA and BB you need aswell as oil?...i take it you mix them all with the pellets, lets sit till dissolved....filter with coffee filter...draw up with a few 100cc pulls...attach the.45 whatman, and run into a 20ml vial (if uusing 1 cart)?
then run a fewmls of oil through the whatman to get it all...and shes ready?correct me on my errors please
thanks!

Umm, you would need to do that anyways, no matter what conversion process you were using. Break it down like this:

If you have one cart, use this to dissolve pellets:
.4ml BA
4.0 ml BB

If you have two, use:
.8ml BA
8.0ml BB

Three:
1.2ml BA
12ml BB

and so on...

sweet great post for us newbs

[RacerXHGH]

Be careful! Using Heet (Methyl Alcohol - Poisoness) is to get an end result of Tren Acetate powder. You're getting rid of the Methyl Cellulose that is the pellet binder. They're telling you how to go direct and skip the powder step. No Heet method!

[Rage101]

yea, at no point to BA, BB and HEET get mixed together.. Injecting the HEET would be really bad news. Even in the recrystallization method you do extensive rinsing to get the heet (methanol) out.

[goof321]

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Here guys use this link...instead of buying "fina kits" and all the bulllllllllshit that goes along with it use that link and just plug in your amounts.

HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS YOU NEED TO FOLLOW:
COMPLIMENTS OF MIKE over at AFBoard

Mine's a little more detailed and takes every single step..I like the other write-ups, but they aren't quite as detailed as they could be and sometimes leave people a little bit confused between steps.

I'm also OCD and do everything meticulously

Anyway, here we go:

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Components
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1. (2) carts finaplix-h
Easy to find online from Vet product companies - usually under 'livestock' and 'implants'

2. 15ml Benzyl Benzoate and 8ml Benzyl Alcohol
Aromachemicals A-G

3. (1) bottle of grapeseed oil
Get this at your local grocery store - usually in the organic section or the cosmetics for some reason

4. Regular coffee filter
Grovery store

5. (3) 50ml unsealed clear vials
(1) 50ml sealed clear vial
(2) .45u whatman filters
(2) .22u whatman filters
(2) 5ml syringe w/ needle
(1) 25g needle
(1) funnel
GPZ Services

6. 1 small clear glass and 1 spoon
Get from your kitchen

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Instructions
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This will make 40ml of 100mg/ml trenbolone acetate

1. Measure out 6.8ml of Benzyl Benzoate and put it in 50ml Unsealed Clear Vial;
2. Put away the BB;
3. Measure out 1.2ml of Benzyl Alcohol and put it in the same 50ml Unsealed Clear vial;
4. Put away the BA;
5. Empty all of the pellets from the 2 fina carts into a glass and crush them with a spoon until they are a fine powder;
4. Use the funnel to empty the crushed pellet powder into the 50ml vial which contains your BA/BB solution - allow this to sit for at least 24 hours;
5. Put away the glass and spoon;
6. Extract 28ml of grapeseed oil from the bottle and put it into the 50ml which contains the dissolved pellets/ba/bb;
7. Extract 4ml of grapeseed oil into a syringe and set it aside;
8. Put away the grapeseed oil;
9. Take the solution of pellet powder/oil/BA/BB and pour it into the funnel, with the oil filter in place - have this drain into your other unsealed 50ml vial - allow this to drain for 24 hours
10. Remove the wet filter and squeeze any extra oil trapped in the filter into the funnel;
11. Throw away the filter and put away the funnel;
12. Using the 5ml syringe, extract 5ml of your powder/oil/ba/bb solution - attach the .45u whatman filter and put the solution into another 50ml vial (I like to switch to a new filter about half-way through because they tend to get clogged - your mileage may vary);
13. repeat step 13 until all 36 ml's (28ml oil, 8ml of ba/bb) have been transferred to another vial;
14. Use 2ml of the 4ml of oil you have saved in your other syringe and flush out whatever is left in your .45u filter;
15. Insert a 25g needle into the top of your SEALED 50ml vial;
16. Extract 5ml of your filtered solution into a syringe, attach a .22u filter and transfer this to your sealed 50ml vial (I like to switch to a new filter about half-way through because they tend to get clogged - your mileage may vary);
17. Repeat until all 38ml of your solution has been transferred to your sealed vial;
18. Flush out the filter with the remaining 2ml of oil you have saved in your syringe;
19. You now have 40ml of 100mg/ml trenbolone acetate.
20. Enjoy your sweet, sweet nectar.

[Indiana]

As a long time kit user, and now deciding kits are just as risky as gear to buy, I have been looking for some good directions. I am so tired of so many thread saying "Oh just throw in some BA/BB," or "your an idiot to buy a kit" type post without no real direction for someone that is gonna be injecting a chemical.
This is finally one where people looking to make without a kit can have clear directions, I have not used it yet, but from my experience this all makes since, thanks Goof321

[hellraiser27]

Originally Posted by RacerXHGH

Be careful! Using Heet (Methyl Alcohol - Poisoness) is to get an end result of Tren Acetate powder. You're getting rid of the Methyl Cellulose that is the pellet binder. They're telling you how to go direct and skip the powder step. No Heet method!

I think he is getting two different methods confused.