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Old 12-04-2007, 12:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i"m new at this. can you put a final product of test base in oil or is there something else that has to be done before it can be added to the oil?
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Old 08-04-2008, 12:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Never tried it myself, but here is your recipe:

33.3% Grapeseed oil
33.3% EO
33.3% Super solvent
2% BA
8% BB

For tne at 150mg/ml. The 33.3%'s are 33.3% of the oil value, not the total solution. So 100ml of 150mg/ml would look something like this:

15g powder= 11.25ml displacement
2%= 2ml BA
8%= 8ml BB
78.75ml total oil, the breakdown being:
26.25ml Grapeseed
26.25ml Ethyl Oleate
26.25ml Guaiacol

This was an old recipe from a few years back, the responses claimed it worked and was painless. I have never tried it myself, but supposed to be good.
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Old 08-04-2008, 11:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hey blui - please let us know if you try this one out! thats a badass recipe b.m.!
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It looks horrendous imo. 33% guaiacol? No way. If you get tren cough then that stuff gets expelled from the lungs even more. Nasty.

It is needed though but not to that degree.

TNE in oil/EO

Begin aiming for 75mgs/ml, forget higher doses. It'll probably crash at that anyways but try this...

3% BA
25% BB
15% Guaiacol
50/50 mix of oil and EO

If it crashes, and leave it for a while - 3 days or so - in the beaker (easier to adjust than if you bottle/vial it)

Then should it crash add more EO until you get 50mgs/ml. Happy brewing.
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Why not use polysorbate 80 instead of guaiacol and eo?
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Ive used that for suspension (<1%) in water but would it work in oil? Hmmm. Might try that this week then. Ill post up results. EO's getting damn expensive.

any idea on percentage mate?
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Ive used that for suspension (<1%) in water but would it work in oil? Hmmm. Might try that this week then. Ill post up results. EO's getting damn expensive.

any idea on percentage mate?
I haven't tried it myself bro. I would start at 3% and see how it works if you feel like experimenting. Peg 400 may be another option.
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
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A thread I need... I've been planning to make some myself for this cycle but the fund are low and life is overwhelming right now.
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I have PEG300, but all recipes ive seen for test base in that are like 10% BA with PEG as carrier. Im not sure about injecting that stuff in such large amounts. Tissue necrosis and all.
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Any other recipes for 100mg test susp in oil without Guaiacol or PEG?
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I have never been able to make it any stronger than about 60 to 65 mg per ml without guiacol .Peg 300 and ps80 are for water based suspension not EO brews .

Here is my current TNE in EO recipe which I have posted here several times .

20 ml at 100 mg per ml

2 grams of TNE

1ml BA [ 5%]
4 ml BB [20%]
3 ML of Guaicol
10.5 ml of EO

I put all this together in a 40 ml Pyrex beaker .Stir it up with a glass rod then place it on the stove top in a 6 inch round 3 inch tall pot in about 1 inch of water with the heat on about 3 .I cook this until it turns crystal clear and then for about another 5 minutes .All together I heat it for about 15 to 20 minutes .Then I take it off the stove and let it cool enough to draw it back up in a 20 ml syringe .Then I use a .22 mm whatman filter to filter it with .I usually let it set over night to make sure it does not crash and just to let it settle .Sometimes If I have been a little lazy or forgetful I will do a shot within a few hrs after I get through if it is time for me to do a shot since In pin it twice a day .It usually takes me about 45 minutes to an hr to complete all this from start to finish .
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I have never been able to make it any stronger than about 60 to 65 mg per ml without guiacol .Peg 300 and ps80 are for water based suspension not EO brews .

Here is my current TNE in EO recipe which I have posted here several times .

20 ml at 100 mg per ml

2 grams of TNE

1ml BA [ 5%]
4 ml BB [20%]
3 ML of Guaicol
10.5 ml of EO

I put all this together in a 40 ml Pyrex beaker .Stir it up with a glass rod then place it on the stove top in a 6 inch round 3 inch tall pot in about 1 inch of water with the heat on about 3 .I cook this until it turns crystal clear and then for about another 5 minutes .All together I heat it for about 15 to 20 minutes .Then I take it off the stove and let it cool enough to draw it back up in a 20 ml syringe .Then I use a .22 mm whatman filter to filter it with .I usually let it set over night to make sure it does not crash and just to let it settle .Sometimes If I have been a little lazy or forgetful I will do a shot within a few hrs after I get through if it is time for me to do a shot since In pin it twice a day .It usually takes me about 45 minutes to an hr to complete all this from start to finish .
thanks. looks good bro!
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Never tried it myself, but here is your recipe:

33.3% Grapeseed oil
33.3% EO
33.3% Super solvent
2% BA
8% BB
bm11, are you sure about that? 109.9%? Must've been a typo somewhere. Not like you to make such a mistake!
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
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bm11, are you sure about that? 109.9%? Must've been a typo somewhere. Not like you to make such a mistake!
It's one of my old recipes, when using the powder calc, it does not account for splitting the oil up using different compounds. So if the powder calc calls for 50ml of oil and you want to use 25 ml of eo then it's 50% oil 50% eo 2% ba 20% bb. Now that looks like 122%, but looking at the powder calc it is not. Thats why the recipe looks a bit confusing.

That was my first try at 150mg/ml and I managed to get the super solvent ration down over time and still have the gear hold.
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