natural comp?

guns · 10-11-2007, 01:08 PM

goin to sound relly stupid but....

waht is the difference between a natural comp and a not natural comp?

i would have thought that becasuse steroids are illiegal, all competitions would be assumed to bhe natural.

again, i know this will sound like a relly stupid question to most of you

T-Bone · 10-11-2007, 06:04 PM

Natural comps are apparently tested for drugs.

Not natural comps, although they dont condone the use of drugs are not tested.

Contender · 01-14-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Bone

Natural comps are apparently tested for drugs.

Not natural comps, although they dont condone the use of drugs are not tested.

Basicly you will see alot ametuer stuff will be tested and alot of pro shows wont be even though we all no they juice up.

Its probly got alot to do with politics, peolpe wana see bigger leaner athletes, if every comp was tested people would look the same give or take ( people have diff genetics )

bantamweight_B · 01-14-2008, 08:59 AM

Check out "natural org.'s" they list what they'd test for.Typically they take urine sample as soon as you get off stage for 1st place,but I've seen em take sample from anyone they suspect of use of non permitted substance's.They also Polygraph,which is nonsense,as Ive never seen anyone,or heard of them failing this "you pay for it" screening.Normal is all else ,i.e.;NPC has Natural Comps and Normal Comps . Hope that helps Bro..

Contender · 01-17-2008, 05:36 AM

I spoke to a cop the other day who reckons both tests can be very easily cheated ?

bantamweight_B · 01-17-2008, 10:02 PM

The polygraph is rehearsed........what does that tell you???????

fugazy · 03-28-2008, 11:29 PM

well if its a natural comp how do they test for growth, igf, slin and whatever else doesnt show up in a test?

dunhill225 · 03-29-2008, 07:54 PM

natural comps are for REAL naturals OR BBers with bad genetics.

hulk6767 · 03-31-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dunhill225

natural comps are for REAL naturals OR BBers with bad genetics.

I went to the supernatural contest once...those guys WEREN'T natural!

norm240lbs · 03-31-2008, 10:33 PM

I want that shirt that says '600% natural'... Testosterone IS natural after all!

bm11 · 04-03-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazy

well if its a natural comp how do they test for growth, igf, slin and whatever else doesnt show up in a test?

They don't. You look at top level "natural" guys, they are bigger than all but the biggest guys on this site. They use peptides religiously, and when you megadose growth, igf and insulin, you don't need AAS at that point.

bmak · 04-03-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bm11

They don't. You look at top level "natural" guys, they are bigger than all but the biggest guys on this site. They use peptides religiously, and when you megadose growth, igf and insulin, you don't need AAS at that point.

yep.... look at michael lockett. that guy claims to be natural and he is the biggest growth specimen ever, and he could pass a piss test anytime.

guns · 04-04-2008, 11:45 AM

haha, i just gogled his name. natural my arse.

you can always tell who has used growth my looking at the belly button

fugazy · 04-12-2008, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm11

They don't. You look at top level "natural" guys, they are bigger than all but the biggest guys on this site. They use peptides religiously, and when you megadose growth, igf and insulin, you don't need AAS at that point.

so whats the point of testing them? thats what im trying to figure out bm. im mind bogeled.

Power81 · 04-12-2008, 08:19 AM

Looks like next year after shit tons of gh/igf/slin I'll drop the test and compete natural, I do have bad genetics after all. Kinda.

Dumbbell_Blonde · 04-16-2008, 07:42 AM

natural shows server several purposes, some official some just me thinking here... one, they're a huge dog and pony show to keep WADA's undies out of a bunch, they can feel like they're making a difference. Two, if for some reason a lower level competitor decides they don't want to use juice, and they don't want to compete on a stage where generally speaking, steroids are a known common factor they can enter a natural show. Three, at a higher level it limits the number of compounds that a competitor can use, and I'm not sure what real good that does, I guess it makes some people feel better. Four, if it doesn't come out in the contest piss test, it won't come out in the work, state, or other piss tests you may have to take, and you can openly tell groups like your employer(s), parole officer, etc. that you are *only competing naturally.* Five, if you're a young competitor, natural shows go over better with parents and family members that are funding your habits until you get out on your own. And, of course, last but not least, six, it gives the self righteous dicks of the bodybuilding world that think that "juice is evil" somewhere to put their soap boxes without looking ridiculous.

m123 · 08-15-2008, 07:37 AM

wat about that skip la cour guy is he natural

Data · 08-15-2008, 12:22 PM

A famous natural bodybuilder once told me that natural is just passing the test.

With that said however I think a lot of people who criticize natural bodybuilders for using gear don't have the dedication and discipline to do what it takes to look like that in the first place. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Jeez Data I wish I could eat like you ... I don't know how you do it" I feel like yelling to them that I want pizza just as bad as everyone else. I just choose to say no.

The majority of people who look bad at a juicer in the gym is just jealous cause he doesn't have what it takes to eat the same 6 meals a day for 12 weeks, 6 months, 5 years. So when I look at a picture of Skip LaCour and he looks unreal I think a couple things to myself. First the guy probably hasn't missed a meal in 10 years (were talking back in like 2000) and I've seen him train and his level of intensity is insane. Second, hell if I hired a professional photographer who knows all about lights, angle, and shading ... took 500 pics of me I bet that 3-4 pictures I'd probably looked jacked. I'm not saying his natural or not, its really none of my business, but regardless I have to think of my story about lazy fuckers who don't have the dedication - pointing to others who have a great physique - and stating STEROIDS - as if the 5 years of 6 meals/day + hours at the gym and on the treadmill have no value.

When someone who busts their ass in the gym doing it naturally and making slow gains says to me that steroids are cheating I can at least respect their comments cause they are busting their ass. But when a lazy bodybuilder who misses meals says STEROIDS I get a little offended.

Anyways I'm just ranting.

live.2.b.big · 08-16-2008, 02:18 AM

it does not matter if u are natural or not people will think u are on gear because u are slightly bigger then everyone else i was natural for ages n every one keeped telling me that i must be on steroids and im talking family ,people i work with and just people i would meet so one day i snaped and thought fuck it if everyone is going to say im on gear then ill get on gear and show them what someone on steroids really looks like and u no its the best thing i ever did 4 my training n people still say the same things to me but it does not worry me i do this for my self not for any one else

10-11-2007, 01:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
guns Senior Member guns's Stats Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 602 Status: Offline guns's Info Location: Country:	natural comp? goin to sound relly stupid but.... waht is the difference between a natural comp and a not natural comp? i would have thought that becasuse steroids are illiegal, all competitions would be assumed to bhe natural. again, i know this will sound like a relly stupid question to most of you

08-15-2008, 12:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
Data Senior Member Data's Stats Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,566 Status: Online Data's Info Location: Canada Country:	A famous natural bodybuilder once told me that natural is just passing the test. With that said however I think a lot of people who criticize natural bodybuilders for using gear don't have the dedication and discipline to do what it takes to look like that in the first place. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Jeez Data I wish I could eat like you ... I don't know how you do it" I feel like yelling to them that I want pizza just as bad as everyone else. I just choose to say no. The majority of people who look bad at a juicer in the gym is just jealous cause he doesn't have what it takes to eat the same 6 meals a day for 12 weeks, 6 months, 5 years. So when I look at a picture of Skip LaCour and he looks unreal I think a couple things to myself. First the guy probably hasn't missed a meal in 10 years (were talking back in like 2000) and I've seen him train and his level of intensity is insane. Second, hell if I hired a professional photographer who knows all about lights, angle, and shading ... took 500 pics of me I bet that 3-4 pictures I'd probably looked jacked. I'm not saying his natural or not, its really none of my business, but regardless I have to think of my story about lazy fuckers who don't have the dedication - pointing to others who have a great physique - and stating STEROIDS - as if the 5 years of 6 meals/day + hours at the gym and on the treadmill have no value. When someone who busts their ass in the gym doing it naturally and making slow gains says to me that steroids are cheating I can at least respect their comments cause they are busting their ass. But when a lazy bodybuilder who misses meals says STEROIDS I get a little offended. Anyways I'm just ranting.
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T-Bone Senior Member T-Bone's Stats Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,769 Status: Offline T-Bone's Info Location: Sydney, Australia Country:	Natural comps are apparently tested for drugs. Not natural comps, although they dont condone the use of drugs are not tested.

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bantamweight_B Senior Member bantamweight_B's Stats Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,488 Status: Offline bantamweight_B's Info Location: Country:	Check out "natural org.'s" they list what they'd test for.Typically they take urine sample as soon as you get off stage for 1st place,but I've seen em take sample from anyone they suspect of use of non permitted substance's.They also Polygraph,which is nonsense,as Ive never seen anyone,or heard of them failing this "you pay for it" screening.Normal is all else ,i.e.;NPC has Natural Comps and Normal Comps . Hope that helps Bro..

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Contender Senior Member Contender's Stats Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 177 Status: Offline Contender's Info Location: Country:	I spoke to a cop the other day who reckons both tests can be very easily cheated ?

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dunhill225 Senior Member dunhill225's Stats Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,576 Status: Offline dunhill225's Info Location: dirty jersey Country:	natural comps are for REAL naturals OR BBers with bad genetics.

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guns Senior Member guns's Stats Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 602 Status: Offline guns's Info Location: Country:	haha, i just gogled his name. natural my arse. you can always tell who has used growth my looking at the belly button

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Dumbbell_Blonde Senior Member Dumbbell_Blonde's Stats Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 145 Status: Offline Dumbbell_Blonde's Info Location: My Apartment. Country:	natural shows server several purposes, some official some just me thinking here... one, they're a huge dog and pony show to keep WADA's undies out of a bunch, they can feel like they're making a difference. Two, if for some reason a lower level competitor decides they don't want to use juice, and they don't want to compete on a stage where generally speaking, steroids are a known common factor they can enter a natural show. Three, at a higher level it limits the number of compounds that a competitor can use, and I'm not sure what real good that does, I guess it makes some people feel better. Four, if it doesn't come out in the contest piss test, it won't come out in the work, state, or other piss tests you may have to take, and you can openly tell groups like your employer(s), parole officer, etc. that you are only competing naturally. Five, if you're a young competitor, natural shows go over better with parents and family members that are funding your habits until you get out on your own. And, of course, last but not least, six, it gives the self righteous dicks of the bodybuilding world that think that "juice is evil" somewhere to put their soap boxes without looking ridiculous.

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m123 New Member m123's Stats Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 21 Status: Online m123's Info Location: Country:	wat about that skip la cour guy is he natural

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live.2.b.big Member live.2.b.big's Stats Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 82 Status: Offline live.2.b.big's Info Location: Country:	it does not matter if u are natural or not people will think u are on gear because u are slightly bigger then everyone else i was natural for ages n every one keeped telling me that i must be on steroids and im talking family ,people i work with and just people i would meet so one day i snaped and thought fuck it if everyone is going to say im on gear then ill get on gear and show them what someone on steroids really looks like and u no its the best thing i ever did 4 my training n people still say the same things to me but it does not worry me i do this for my self not for any one else