36 eggs, 3 quarts of cream, 10mg dbol ed

[Blatantly Juiced]

mule, i am going to experiment and replace the majority of my chicken protien with raw eggs

but do the excess cals not make you fat? how??

[Moe-Mentum]

To awnser the question on what constitutes "raw eggs" no it doesn't have to be a speacial egg.
However I would reckomend that they be organic and free range.

[Jammers]

I am eating 3 lbs of raw squirrel a day and so far the results are amazing.

[Moe-Mentum]

Originally Posted by Jammers

I am eating 3 lbs of raw squirrel a day and so far the results are amazing.

And here I thought the anabolic properties of squirrel anus was over rated.

[inkman]

Originally Posted by Rockice

I gained the most naturally when I was eating raw eggs, meat and milk. Thankfully I have access to raw milk. I eat atleast a lb of raw beef a day. One other thing Mule has not mentioned or anyone else is guys back then ate RED MEAT not chicken. I think it was Don Howorth who said you can't grow on motherfuckin chicken. LOL.

Dude you said you eat a lb of RAW beef a day?? explain please is it raw steak what about danger of worms and such?

[Rockice]

Originally Posted by inkman

Dude you said you eat a lb of RAW beef a day?? explain please is it raw steak what about danger of worms and such?

Yes bro and let me tell you something. Talk about appetite stimulation. I swear everytime after I eat it my appetite goes nuts for like two hours. Last night around 6 pm I had a vitamin water and a lb of grass fed raw beef. A few hours later I went through the drive through at Wendy's I was so hungry. That is not normal for me. I think it's all the natural b-12 that is found in beef but mostly destroyed when you cook it.

As for your other question I've been eating raw eggs, milk and beef for a year now. NO problems. In the beginning I had a little diarrhea due to my system adjusting but nothing serious. The body is an amazing thing. I have yet to get sick this year other than minor colds. I attribute this to the raw food in my diet. Honestly, I eat so much raw meat (mostly ground beef/chuck or tenderloin steaks as they are easier to chew) if I go out to a restuarant I have to get my beef rare. Anything cooked tastes gross on my palate. It's weird. I get all my beef from wild oats and it's all grass fed. You do not have to worry about worms or anything. If there is fucking worms in your meat that's disgusting whether you eat it raw or cook it. It's not the food in your life but the life in your food. We eat a standard american diet of food lacking in enzymes and beneficial bacteria.

[grifter]

So many different stories, and I'm not discrediting anyone, but I worked security at the Ontario Milk Farmers Association a few days ago. Yes security at this function. They were worried about a group of protesters who were promoting Raw Milk and might try and stage a verbal protest inside one of the meetings.
Most of the farmers there drink raw milk. The milk that they produce, they comsume everyday. Not the pasturized kind, but they do not promote the sale of raw milk.
One thing one of the chairpersons said when I was talking to him was that if raw milk is not consumed over a few days more pathogens are likely to be found where pasterized milk has a longer life.
So make sure that the raw milk you do consume is fresh and hasn't been shipped for days before you receive it.

[theboss]

i'm going to the store to get me some this morning!

time to make a raw whole egg drink

[Jmazz19]

I cant seem to stomach the thought of raw eggs. Watching it on Rocky makes me sick. Since I live in the country I know there are some dairy farms around here that will sell milk cheaper than what you can find at the store. Might check that out.

[speedbacker]

Originally Posted by Jmazz19

I cant seem to stomach the thought of raw eggs. Watching it on Rocky makes me sick. Since I live in the country I know there are some dairy farms around here that will sell milk cheaper than what you can find at the store. Might check that out.

I was like that at first too. I started drinking the eggs raw at first and gagged the first couple times. Been doing it for about 5 months now and it tastes like vanilla to me now.

[RacerXHGH]

Originally Posted by Jammers

I am eating 3 lbs of raw squirrel a day and so far the results are amazing.

Hmmmm... To get three lbs of good squirrel meat, you'd have to hunt about what, 20, 25 of the little guys??? That's a lot o' cals spent on hunting!

Hey! I know we're not supposed to eat a lot of tuna because of mercury levels, anyone know if this applies to salmon? I love eating Salmon, sushi, grilled, in the can... Yum!

[Moe-Mentum]

Originally Posted by Jmazz19

I cant seem to stomach the thought of raw eggs. Watching it on Rocky makes me sick. Since I live in the country I know there are some dairy farms around here that will sell milk cheaper than what you can find at the store. Might check that out.

You would be suprised at how much a bit of milk and some vanilla potein powder can change the texture and taste to make it much more palatable.
I could'nt do just plain raw eggs unless maybe I was STARVING.

[mule]

Originally Posted by grifter

So many different stories, and I'm not discrediting anyone, but I worked security at the Ontario Milk Farmers Association a few days ago. Yes security at this function. They were worried about a group of protesters who were promoting Raw Milk and might try and stage a verbal protest inside one of the meetings.
Most of the farmers there drink raw milk. The milk that they produce, they comsume everyday. Not the pasturized kind, but they do not promote the sale of raw milk.
One thing one of the chairpersons said when I was talking to him was that if raw milk is not consumed over a few days more pathogens are likely to be found where pasterized milk has a longer life.
So make sure that the raw milk you do consume is fresh and hasn't been shipped for days before you receive it.

your being misinformed, its to much to get into here if your really interested look into it

in short what he told you about pathogens is total crap though , In pre fridge days people used to keep their meat fresh by leaving in in raw milk. the thing is though the milk most dairy farms product is crap because of what the cows eat and how they are taken care of, so what he is saying might apply in certain insstances to that milk. raw milk actually does not go bad it ferments and actually fermented raw milk is very good for you ,its better in a lot of ways than fresh milk. pastuerized milk if you leave it out will go off and you will get very sick drinking it, this is because its devoid of any living elements so it goes bad this is not the case with raw milk, it naturally ferments its called clabbered milk.

and to all you guys thinking about this i would not touch the crap coming out of most dairies. that milk is made knowing its going to be pasteurized and often does have pathogens, if you drink it raw you could be asking for trouble. do some research on the dairy your buying from ,make sure their producing their milk specifically for raw drinking and that their doing things right on their farm.

[mule]

Originally Posted by Moe-Mentum

You would be suprised at how much a bit of milk and some vanilla potein powder can change the texture and taste to make it much more palatable.
I could'nt do just plain raw eggs unless maybe I was STARVING.

you don't even taste it though, eggs whites have no taste and if your using good quality eggs the yolks almost always stay solid and do not break meaning everything slips down your throat and you taste nothing.

[mule]

Originally Posted by speedbacker

Mule- This is kind of a basic stupid question, but I have been drinking the eggs I get at the grocery raw (cracking them into a glass and then beating them up with a fork, then drinking them), I have been eating them raw. Does that classify as eating raw eggs, or when you say raw eggs do you mean special eggs that you can only get at places that sell raw dairy?

any eggs eaten raw are raw but i would not use just reguler eggs , i would use either free range, orgainic or omega 3 eggs. reguler eggs don't hve the right omega 3 balance in them because the chickens are not fed properly so teh omega 3 to omega 6 ration is skewered and vitamin content is lowered. these chickens are fed 100 percent pellets and given antibiotics. try to get ones that say no antbiotics in the feed and fed with seeds like flax

[mule]

Originally Posted by Blatantly Juiced

mule, i am going to experiment and replace the majority of my chicken protien with raw eggs

but do the excess cals not make you fat? how??

one thing before i start is if you going to have a large amount of raw eggs i suggest a 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 ratio or yolks to whites because raw egg whites have a lot of enzyme inhibitors . you can cook the whites their fine that way.

your right in general excess calories make you fat , but in specific instaces over the long term this can be very wrong. it is the type of caloris that are very important. Like i said earlier 3000 calories or raw eags is not even close to the same as 3000 calories of crispy creams. the way your body processes if you eat real foods your metabolism will be much difffernt . if you cut junk out 90 to 100 percnet of the time you will find your body will change in how it handles calories. this also happens when you diet down to very low body fat as well. many bodybuilder notice their metabolism handles excess calories better each time they do this. you lot of time hear bodybuilder say i came in with more muscle and leaner this time and i ate mostly turkey last time i ate mostly chicken. these are just hypothectical food choices but the point is you hear this type of thing all the time where the exact number of calories was the same even the percentage and number cal breakdowns of protein , fat and carbs, same drugs ,same cardio, same training ect but they actual food sources changed a bit.

This illustrates the point of how the number of calories is important but a lot of times not the most important, its the actuallly the type of food. when you have a whole food your not just having a calorie your getting the whole thing, fats, proteins, carbs ,trace elements, vitamins, minerals, fiber, live enzymes, good bacteria ect.. all in conjucntin with each other in a way that is better than porcessed foods with often synthetic , isolated nutrients not part of a whole food a matrix.

rockice said earlier these guys got big on beef not chicken, very true but even though beef may best meat for many some may be able to get big on chicken or do better with pork , or seafood ect.. a lot of this is finding also what works best for you. try meals during your day with 40 grams of protein, 50 grams 60 or 70 . try differnt numbers with carbs and fats as well. try each meal plan for 2-3 weeks and see how much muscle each other produces to find out whats best for you. in general raw dairy and raw eggs are 2 choices that have worked very well for the majority of bodybuilders

i keeping saying it but it is the truth is not just numbers it proper assimalation and digestion of food. thats where eating foods with high enyme and good bacteria content is key. you ever wonder why some people eat less protein and gain more muscle than other who might eat more. obvioulsy one guys digestive system is much more efficient and eating the right foods helps this very much.

[mule]

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[mule]

thought i would bump this one, lots of good info on diet here

[Solid43]

I have posted this on other threads in the not too distant past.. but here is my approach to raw eggs.. (by the way..this came from a Frank Zane seminar) Raw eggs must be kept at room temperature.. otherwise the balance between lecethin and cholesterol will be messed up. An egg in its natural state is "a perfect food." (Zane also claimed that milk created to much phlem and tended to lead to colds.. He pointed out that "we are the only mammals that drink milk" beyond infancy. Anway.. Here is my receipe.. based on the Zane man's teachings: Twelve eggs put in a basket on the kitchen counter the night before using...Four shakes during each day comprised of.. one pint of fresh orange juice in the bottom of the blender, four raw eggs, two tablespoons of ricotta cheese (smooth, high protein) one banana, two tablespoons of egg and milk protein powder (I use chocolate), a drop of cannola oil (to smooth it out) blend and drink!! It is an amazingly tasty beverage..and compliments just about anything else you care to eat with it.. not sure about squirrel though.