Tryed to have bloodwork done today!!!

[Testaroon]

So I tryed to have bloodwork done today I went to see a new doctor cause I just moved here recently now I wanted to have the tests done without really having anything permenatly on my medical record about steroid use.It did not go as I had planed it. First he would not get tests done without a good reason so I said I had done some supplements that may have altered my hormone levels but he saw right through that and knew I what I was talking about and would not get me the tests without having it in the report. From talking with him It was obvious he didn't know much about steroids.He's telling me they won't do anything for me and that is rediculous they have done a hell of a lot for me I told him exactly what they have done for me.Then he proceeded to tell me that down the line It would catch up with me I'll wish I hadn't used them.But I repeatedly asked how exacly it would catch up with me?What would these concicuenses be? and to all my questioning he had absoulutly no reply.The only thing he said to me that my balls could shrink I said ya and they'll come back after I stop using right and he said yes in most cases. You know the funny'st part was when he said I might as well be snorting cocaine.I laughed I couldnt help it his ignorence was amazing.I told him I'm just adding a little of what my body produces anyway.
I'm not sure wheather I should just admit and have him put it in his report.The only reason I didn't want to is cause I was afaid if say in the future I wanted to go on TRT or have gyno sugery or what have you that my insurence company would say well you did it to your self you can pay for it.

Should I try another doctor? Anyone else have trouble finding a doctor to oblidge?

[GoVAN]

It looks as if you are in Canada and I am not sure how things work up there. Is it possible for you to seek out an endocrinologist? If not, then definitely go to a different doc. Also, do not come out and say you were on supplements or gear. Instead, describe to the doc the signs and symtoms of low testosterone levels. Mention low sex drive, difficulty getting an erection, feeling depressed, low energy level and lack of motivaion. Play the game until you find a doc who will run some test on you.

[nibbe828]

Can't you go thru some online company? They'll just set you up to have your blood drawn and then they'll send you the results!

[lv 426]

When I was in my early twenties (15 or so years ago) I asked my family doc for my
hormone profile. He said your young and healthy no need for it. I accepted that answer.
A couple years ago I was talking to a doc, just chit chat, I mentioned that and he said " no Canadian doctor can refuse a reasonable request" and went on to say that a blood test is not unreasonable. If I wanted to I could have written the College of Physicians and complained.

Just food for thought.

Lv 426

[Testaroon]

Originally Posted by nibbe828

Can't you go thru some online company? They'll just set you up to have your blood drawn and then they'll send you the results!

Anyone know one I could use?

[Testaroon]

Originally Posted by lv 426

When I was in my early twenties (15 or so years ago) I asked my family doc for my
hormone profile. He said your young and healthy no need for it. I accepted that answer.
A couple years ago I was talking to a doc, just chit chat, I mentioned that and he said " no Canadian doctor can refuse a reasonable request" and went on to say that a blood test is not unreasonable. If I wanted to I could have written the College of Physicians and complained.

Just food for thought.

Lv 426

Very interesting,something to look into.

[Testaroon]

Originally Posted by nibbe828

Can't you go thru some online company? They'll just set you up to have your blood drawn and then they'll send you the results!

I been looking into these lots of them around.Anybody use any of these online blood testing places? A little pricy the ones I'v seen but still might be the way to go.

[Data]

I'm completely honest with my doctor about steroids. Fortunately he is a European doctor who has a liberal stance on drugs and happens to know a lot about anabolic steroids. He makes sure I'm taken care of during my cycles from blood work to prescriptions.

I would find another doctor. I wouldn't admit steroid use until you've established some trust. As the poster above mentioned just bitch a bit about low energy, sex drive, lethargy, can't get it up, that type of thing and see where it goes.

[Testaroon]

Originally Posted by Data

I'm completely honest with my doctor about steroids. Fortunately he is a European doctor who has a liberal stance on drugs and happens to know a lot about anabolic steroids. He makes sure I'm taken care of during my cycles from blood work to prescriptions.

I would find another doctor. I wouldn't admit steroid use until you've established some trust. As the poster above mentioned just bitch a bit about low energy, sex drive, lethargy, can't get it up, that type of thing and see where it goes.

But when they get my blood work back he's going to know I'm full of shit.

Do you think I have anything to worrie about haveing steroid use on my medical record. I know like say smoking related illness they cannot refuse treatment but has anyone heard of someone being refused treatment or just having to pay for there own because of some thing caused by a history of illegal subsatance use.Does canadian healthcare do that?Or maybe extended health care like prescriptions being denied for TRT coverage?

Right now I am living in a pretty small community so I'm not going to get to many chances at this.

[nibbe828]

Originally Posted by Testaroon

I been looking into these lots of them around.Anybody use any of these online blood testing places? A little pricy the ones I'v seen but still might be the way to go.

I used one a while ago. I didn't do the entire spectrum I just wanted my test levels checked. After that I had my doc check it

[Anomeley]

Originally Posted by Testaroon

Do you think I have anything to worrie about haveing steroid use on my medical record. I know like say smoking related illness they cannot refuse treatment but has anyone heard of someone being refused treatment or just having to pay for there own because of some thing caused by a history of illegal subsatance use.Does canadian healthcare do that?Or maybe extended health care like prescriptions being denied for TRT coverage?

Yes. Four years ago when I had my issues and spent a month in the hospital, 14 days of that in ICU on a respirator my wife HAD to divulge my steroid use as Tren was part of the problem with my lungs. Long story short, most insurance companies have exclusions that include AAS and they are expressly laid out in writing where they can and will deny coverage. My doctor left AAS out of the report for this very reason. I owe him a lot, the bill was MASSIVE.

The other question that someone asked about blood draws from online companies and do they exist. Of course, if any of the "legal" HRT clinics are still around like the one I used in FL that got busted last year then they will send someone out to do a blood draw just like insurance companies do only they are looking at more than just lipids obviously as they check your test levels too.

[Data]

A while ago I was on a heavy cycle (1500mg sust/wk + 1000mg eq/wk + tren) and working out pretty hard. In the middle of the night I started going into convulsions so terrible that I thought my muscles were going to tear. Shortly after that I started pissing blood.

Anyways my family doc knows that I was doing and I explained to the emergency doc what I was using.

They took some blood work. Of course my testosterone levels were so high the lab stopped testing. I also had inefficient kidney function and a super high white blood cell count. I immediately thought ... shit I did it this time ... cause I was on tren for much longer than I usually run it eh ... so I thought I fucked my kidneys.

Neither of the doctors thought my condition was related to steroids. Rather they thought I somehow caught a virus causing a urinary tract infection.

Anyways, this is Canada dude ... health coverage is a right ... in the states its for the rich and wealthy. I didn't even have to show any ID. They just treated me and I left the emergency room. Since then I've quit my job and transferred health benefits and nothing was even mentioned.

[Testaroon]

Originally Posted by Anomeley

Yes. Four years ago when I had my issues and spent a month in the hospital, 14 days of that in ICU on a respirator my wife HAD to divulge my steroid use as Tren was part of the problem with my lungs. Long story short, most insurance companies have exclusions that include AAS and they are expressly laid out in writing where they can and will deny coverage. My doctor left AAS out of the report for this very reason. I owe him a lot, the bill was MASSIVE.

The other question that someone asked about blood draws from online companies and do they exist. Of course, if any of the "legal" HRT clinics are still around like the one I used in FL that got busted last then they will send someone out to do a blood draw just like insurance companies do only they are looking at more than just lipids obviously as they check your test levels too.

By the sounds of this maybe I'd be better off going with private tests.

[Robot]

Is private testing available, I'd like to know if it is.

Personally I would get another doctor and keep trying till I found one to work with. Getting a baseline set of blood work done before a cycle so that you can ensure that the PCT has worked and that you are healthy throughout seems like a priority item on the checklist to me.

If your personal physician isn't interested in your health you should find another.

[Gicantor]

Here guys this might be helpful to some of you.

ZRT Laboratory

[Testaroon]

Originally Posted by Data

A while ago I was on a heavy cycle (1500mg sust/wk + 1000mg eq/wk + tren) and working out pretty hard. In the middle of the night I started going into convulsions so terrible that I thought my muscles were going to tear. Shortly after that I started pissing blood.

Anyways my family doc knows that I was doing and I explained to the emergency doc what I was using.

They took some blood work. Of course my testosterone levels were so high the lab stopped testing. I also had inefficient kidney function and a super high white blood cell count. I immediately thought ... shit I did it this time ... cause I was on tren for much longer than I usually run it eh ... so I thought I fucked my kidneys.

Neither of the doctors thought my condition was related to steroids. Rather they thought I somehow caught a virus causing a urinary tract infection.

Anyways, this is Canada dude ... health coverage is a right ... in the states its for the rich and wealthy. I didn't even have to show any ID. They just treated me and I left the emergency room. Since then I've quit my job and transferred health benefits and nothing was even mentioned.

This is good to know .I would like to be up front and honest but I don't really think this is the right doctor for me. I think I'll try another.

[M.McFly]

Originally Posted by Testaroon

This is good to know .I would like to be up front and honest but I don't really think this is the right doctor for me. I think I'll try another.

Data is correct. Health coverage is your right in Canada. It is not like in the US where the private insurer can deny coverage. Your provincial MSP CANNOT do that. Period. Even if you decide to run for PM some day, privacy legislation precludes any of your medical information from being released to any third party without your prior consent. So you have no worries there.

With that said, you will still have no problem finding doctors with ignorant and outdated attitudes on the use of anabolics and the destruction they cause. If you are close to the border, you could always pay for your testing in the US.

When I went to have testing done, I told the doctor the truth. I needed blood work results and a physical to send to a US clinic for HRT. He told me I would need to pay for the testing since it was not necessary, and I told him I was fine with that. Then he proceeded to sabotage my physical form by stating I had hypertension and possibly an enlarged spleen. Well, now that bloodwork was all of a sudden a medical necessity and was paid by MSP. And I still had no problems receiving the HRT.

[nibbe828]

Originally Posted by M.McFly

Even if you decide to run for PM some day, privacy legislation precludes any of your medical information from being released to any third party without your prior consent.

Really? That rocks! I mean from what I gather here in the USA it gets in the record and there's always a way to get to it. I believe you have to sign some forms to release your medical record when applying for a job(some places, not all).