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Old 10-10-2008, 03:29 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Highly extreme diet. I would be inclined to increase carbs a little to promote thyroid function and I found a product called SOG-3 rather useful for alkalinity. Your calorie levels are lower then maintenance levels although you are trying to lose bodyfat so that is understood but may be a bit low still for your size. A small amount of rolled oats would be good for removing waste bile salts and promoting cholesterol usage. I would be tempted to use more flaxseed oil rather than macadamia nut oil but I do like its unique flavour. Your water consumption is massive and you would probably get away with half of it. Not sure why you supplement so much vit E when it is fat soluble and it would be in your oils that you consume. I would be looking forward to seeing the results.
Mac oil is superior to Flax hence what he has choosen it. It also has a higher smoke point which is better for cooking

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Old 10-10-2008, 05:54 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:08 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I think a new thread on cardio may be beneficial as Mr Vic pointed out a lot of people increase their cardio massively leading up to the show and I know that my legs look their best when I leave cardio alone before a show. However I find that if I cycle cardio in and out of my workouts ie. one week 4-5 times/week and then no cardio the next I do get beneficial effects from the week of cardio. It is similar to carbohydrate cycling in fact I use low carb days on cardio days just to give the body a shock of reduced calories and increased calorie intake followed by a higher carb less activity recovery day. I won't do longer than 25 minutes with heart rate between 120-160 ie 1min sprint and 2 mins recovery. I am still wondering if the benefits are that great.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:10 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Highly extreme diet. I would be inclined to increase carbs a little to promote thyroid function and I found a product called SOG-3 rather useful for alkalinity.
I have never heard of this product SOG-3.
Do you have a link to it?
I was going to add Vital greens to the diet to resolve the alkanity problem

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A small amount of rolled oats would be good for removing waste bile salts and promoting cholesterol usage.
If you read post # 8 I consume 1 table spoon 3 times per day of psyillium husk.
Why would I add rolled oats to a ketogenic diet ???? It defeats the propose.


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I would be tempted to use more flaxseed oil rather than macadamia nut oil but I do like its unique flavour.
From certain studies I have read flaxseed oil is not ideal for males.
I would prefer to use Udo's Choice Omega blend , which is far superior.

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Your water consumption is massive and you would probably get away with half of it. Not sure why you supplement so much vit E when it is fat soluble and it would be in your oils that you consume. I would be looking forward to seeing the results.
Vitamin E is used to treat and pevent immune weakness and arthritis.
The water consumption is adequate for the environment which I live in .

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Old 10-10-2008, 11:17 PM   #85 (permalink)
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I have never heard of this product SOG-3.
Do you have a link to it?

I was going to add Vital greens to the diet to resolve the alkanity problem

If you read post # 8 I consume 1 table spoon 3 times per day of psyillium husk.
Why would I add rolled oats to a ketogenic diet ???? It defeats the propose.

From certain studies I have read flaxseed oil is not ideal for males.
I would prefer to use Udo's Choice Omega blend , which is far superior.

Vitamin E is used to treat and pevent immune weakness and arthritis.
The water consumption is adequate for the environment which I live in .

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Wheat grass/Barley grass will help resolve the alkanity problem, and is about one fifth of the price.

Vitamin E also enhances Omega 3 absorption, which is why many fish oil supplements also contain Vitamin E (it also helps preserve the fish oil). I use Melrose Norwegian Omega Fish Oil in liquid form. I have 10ml twice per day.
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:52 AM   #86 (permalink)
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ASN stocks it. It contains spinach, spiralina and chloreela extract as well as all vitamins and minerals. I get it from ASN. Have a look on their website or talk to Brando. I actually tested my acidity levels the day before I used it and 2 days after using it and my degree of acidity decreased. I was pretty well neutral. I eat more carbs however so im probably not as acidic as you would be. I'd test using strips available at a pharmacy. The strips are to test acidity and ketoacidosis in diabetes sufferers. Psyllium husk is a harsh fibre. I actually found that LSA was better and less harsh on the colon.
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Alc I'm aware of the potential negative aspects to supplementing with Flaxseed oil but from personal experience i cannot think of a single more important supplement. I absolutely swear by it. Sometimes i find ignorance is bliss for those of us that tend to over research at times.
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Alc I'm aware of the potential negative aspects to supplementing with Flaxseed oil but from personal experience i cannot think of a single more important supplement. I absolutely swear by it. Sometimes i find ignorance is bliss for those of us that tend to over research at times.
I already consume some flaxseed oil in my Omega 3.6.9 capsules.Each capsule contains 400mg of flaxseed.

But from everything I have read Udo'sChoice Omega Blend is the best EFA available on the market to date.

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FATS THAT HEAL FATS THAT KILL , by UDO if you have not read it is a good read
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FATS THAT HEAL FATS THAT KILL , by UDO if you have not read it is a good read
spot on Mr Vic.

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will only be using 200mg slow release DHEA.All other supplements are deemed illegal in this country

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I literally laughed out loud at this one alc. Your dry humor is hilarious on the rare occasion it makes an appearance.
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I tried a diet similar to this while weighing 116 kg down from an offseason 130kg and several weeks into a fat loss diet but I felt the weight loss was so dramatic it was causing muscle loss and there was no way i was going to do cardio as well, I had to stop the diet after 2 weeks but did learn the benefits of fats on low carb days.THen I got sick and lost 8 kg over a 3 week period .Since the body was in such a catabolic state after being sick I had to change my carb cycling days from 3 low 2 med and 2 high carb days to one day low 1 day med and one day high and these days all had substantially increased carbs .I was able to gain back 3 kg while still losing bodyfat.Good Luck on the diet
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I tried a diet similar to this while weighing 116 kg down from an offseason 130kg and several weeks into a fat loss diet but I felt the weight loss was so dramatic it was causing muscle loss and there was no way i was going to do cardio as well, I had to stop the diet after 2 weeks but did learn the benefits of fats on low carb days.THen I got sick and lost 8 kg over a 3 week period .Since the body was in such a catabolic state after being sick I had to change my carb cycling days from 3 low 2 med and 2 high carb days to one day low 1 day med and one day high and these days all had substantially increased carbs .I was able to gain back 3 kg while still losing bodyfat.Good Luck on the diet
If you posted 2 DEXA scans from the sam laboratory, we would be able to prove either way if you were losing muscle tissue.

Too many people jump off this diet because of the psychological instability they have about there muscle mass. Reality is, a person is not losing muscle tissue on a diet like above given there is plenty of protein and fats. In fact, using this diet compared to calorie restricting & hours of cardio, will PRESERVE more muscle tissue than the latter.
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