Blood Biochemistry - What you should be asking for

Alchemy · 02-16-2008, 01:32 AM

1.) Major hormones to be tested :

Testosterone
Free Androgen Index
LH/FSH
DHEA /DHEAS
Estradiol/ IGF-1
Full Thyroid Panel
Prolactin

2.)Full cardiovascular profile :

Total Cholesterol
LDL
HDL
Trigelycerides
Homocysteine
C reaction protien

3.) Liver enzymes

Alkaline phosphate
GGT
SGOT
SGPT
PSA

4.) Kidney values:

Serum Creatinine
Glomerular Filtration Rate (GFR):
Blood Urea Nitrogen (BUN):
Urine Protein:
Microalbuminuria:
Urine Creatinine:
Protein-to-Creatinine Ratio:
Serum Albumin:

If I have left anything out , please add to this thread
AB

Mr Oz · 02-16-2008, 01:33 AM

gonnareah (sp?)

Gav · 02-16-2008, 03:09 AM

thank-you very much

T-Bone · 02-16-2008, 04:58 AM

Thanks for that Alchemy. Im due to get my bloods done. Great help.

Sledge · 02-16-2008, 08:20 AM

great post A. You have just been a fountain of usefull info lately.

Alchemy · 02-16-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Oz

gonnareah (sp?)

LOL!!! only if you have been with outlaw lately

AB

Alchemy · 02-16-2008, 05:06 PM

mods can this be made a sticky????

**Hound_Dog** · 02-16-2008, 05:29 PM

Yes mate...actually Mods, we need a sticky clean up!!

Gav · 02-16-2008, 07:43 PM

I have never had a blood test before and plan on getting it done in the next week or two. My knowledge is very limited on the subject. As a natty, would there be anything on that list that I dont need to have done, or that I should add?

Thank-you

hectik · 02-27-2008, 02:14 AM

Is the quack at the local medical centre going to know what to make of these results?

Alchemy · 02-27-2008, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hectik

Is the quack at the local medical centre going to know what to make of these results?

majority of them will not.All pathology labs produce 2 copies of your results.one is kept in your life with your gp and the other should be offered to you by your GP.

you can always PM me your results and I will discuss them with you

Alc

sizematters270 · 02-27-2008, 09:53 AM

alc i get fairly regular tests & from memory my doc just asks for my test levls,cholesterol & a full blood/liver count is this simalar or should i take a copy of this to him & say i want this done???
also do you get charged extra for this test as i think medicare only covers so many things.

Alchemy · 02-27-2008, 04:37 PM

medicare doesn't cover the igf reading

Alc

**Xanthine** · 02-27-2008, 10:13 PM

Excellent info

hectik · 02-27-2008, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy

majority of them will not.All pathology labs produce 2 copies of your results.one is kept in your life with your gp and the other should be offered to you by your GP.

you can always PM me your results and I will discuss them with you

Alc

Thanks mate, much appreciated. I'll request the full list next time round.

Archers · 02-28-2008, 05:14 AM

Great list and great thread. May I suggest adding fasting morning cortisol, and 17OH pregnenalone ( if cortisol high and DHEAS low ). Also in the test panel add SHBG.

maza · 03-03-2008, 04:19 AM

Nice AC,but you dont really need all these blood tests, but they are a good baseline on what you may need.And everybody is a individual,so a 24-25 year old may need different blood results,to say a person who may be around 50years old.

The bare minimum would be euc (electrolytes,urea,creatinine), maybe cmp (calcium,magnesium,phosphate), liver function tests,thyroid function tests,cholesterol.These are probably a safe and bare minimum.

As i said everybody is different and everybody has different lifestyles and circumstances.

Take for instance a 24yo, he doesnt need fancy blood tests like albumin,crp,psa, urine protein etc.

Alchemy · 03-03-2008, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maza

Nice AC,but you dont really need all these blood tests, but they are a good baseline on what you may need.And everybody is a individual,so a 24-25 year old may need different blood results,to say a person who may be around 50years old.

The bare minimum would be euc (electrolytes,urea,creatinine), maybe cmp (calcium,magnesium,phosphate), liver function tests,thyroid function tests,cholesterol.These are probably a safe and bare minimum.

As i said everybody is different and everybody has different lifestyles and circumstances.

Take for instance a 24yo, he doesnt need fancy blood tests like albumin,crp,psa, urine protein etc.

Sorry mate , these blood test are specifically for individuals that weight train and you AAS or peptide hormones regardless of age

Alc

maza · 03-03-2008, 06:12 PM

All cool AC.

I guess everybody has there opinions.

I still dont understand why you need all these blood tests. Some are totally irrelevant.

Amateur · 03-03-2008, 10:51 PM

So medicare will rebate the costs except for the igf test?

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Archers New Member Archers's Stats Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22 Status: Offline Archers's Info Location: Country:	Great list and great thread. May I suggest adding fasting morning cortisol, and 17OH pregnenalone ( if cortisol high and DHEAS low ). Also in the test panel add SHBG.

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maza Senior Member maza's Stats Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 588 Status: Offline maza's Info Location: Country:	Nice AC,but you dont really need all these blood tests, but they are a good baseline on what you may need.And everybody is a individual,so a 24-25 year old may need different blood results,to say a person who may be around 50years old. The bare minimum would be euc (electrolytes,urea,creatinine), maybe cmp (calcium,magnesium,phosphate), liver function tests,thyroid function tests,cholesterol.These are probably a safe and bare minimum. As i said everybody is different and everybody has different lifestyles and circumstances. Take for instance a 24yo, he doesnt need fancy blood tests like albumin,crp,psa, urine protein etc.

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maza Senior Member maza's Stats Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 588 Status: Offline maza's Info Location: Country:	All cool AC. I guess everybody has there opinions. I still dont understand why you need all these blood tests. Some are totally irrelevant.